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  Quote bribri76 Replybullet Topic: Reverse screw roll
    Posted: 14 Dec 2006 at 8:47pm
Does anyone have a reference to explain how ya do a reverse screw roll?   I've run across a single pic but unlike all the other rolls that show numerous illustrations of the different stages, I can't find a reference that shows the stages of the reverse screw roll.  I tried it a month or so ago in the pool and I was messin' something up but can't figure out what.  I think I was challenged leaning back far enough or sinking my paddle.  Somethin' like that.  Frustrating.  Thanx.
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  Quote joshcrossman Replybullet Posted: 14 Dec 2006 at 10:12pm
by screw roll you mean back deck roll?   if so, the reverse is pretty tricky, normally because your control hand (i.e. right hand control) blade is set at angle so that it sinks.    normally if you are right handed you start the back deck turning to the left.   turning to the right's pretty hard (i.e. nearly impossible)

or so i was told when i tried to have a pro teach me to reverse back deck roll.  

of course, you could be talking about something completely different.
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  Quote bribri76 Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 6:41am
We're probably talking the same thing.  Here's a reference:
 
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 10:35am
Nope screw is not Backdeck... Screw looks to be more of the sea to sea... right or side to side.. forget which one it is called.


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  Quote Guests Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 5:15pm
What they are calling a screw roll is just a botched version of the Sweep Roll. As for doing a reverse version of the sweep roll, it is possible but not really practical. It is not very useful and difficult to set up for.

Just learn how to do a normal sweep roll, backdeck roll, and a Back Deck hands roll and you will have all the rolls you will ever need.

Also, was it just me or did pretty much every roll on that site look like they were just doing C to C rolls from different angles?
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  Quote bribri76 Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 6:14pm
On the reference you looked at the reverse screw roll and not the screw roll, right?
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  Quote bribri76 Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 6:17pm
Do you have a reference for the backdeck roll?
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  Quote joshcrossman Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 8:45pm
yea, i looked at the reverse screw roll, which looked suspiciously like a back deck roll.   for a back deck roll (also called a rodeo roll), see  http://www.paddlermagazine.com/issues/2001_4/article_125.shtml

once you get a tight hip snap, you can actually go all the way around without getting your head wet.   not that i've done that.    but i have seen it done.  


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  Quote Gabe Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 10:11pm
Mmmmm....warm buttered roll is best!
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  Quote Ronin Replybullet Posted: 15 Dec 2006 at 11:01pm
I consider the REVERSE screw roll the same as a REVERSE sweep roll or a back deck roll. I've done it several times after flipping in a hole without tucking and ended up lying on my back deck so I was already in a position to do a REVERSE sweep roll, but I try to avoid doing it. Your technic or form has to be perfect or you can really mess up your shoulder.            
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  Quote bribri76 Replybullet Posted: 16 Dec 2006 at 10:06am
Cool.  This is really helping!  Knowing it's called a back deck roll or reverse sweep and the reference to Ken Whiting really helps.  Your hyper-link was fantastic and furthered me to http://www.boatertalk.com/skills.php?id=126.  Can't wait to try it out now.  Thanx!
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