Eagle Falls Solo Mission
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Printed Date: 18 Jun 2025 at 7:31pm
Topic: Eagle Falls Solo Mission
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Subject: Eagle Falls Solo Mission
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 11:34am
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So I'm driving home from Leavenworth Sunday evening and not far ahead of me a major accident completely stopped traffic both ways on highway 2. It just so happened that I was stopped literally right in front of Eagle Falls. Kinda weird I thought to myself, "what does this mean? Was I meant to run Eagle Falls by myself today? Nah, it's way too high, don't even think about you moron...." After sitting in dead stopped traffic for 20 minutes while listening to Eagle Falls raging beneath the highway I couldn't resist, I had to run it. So I pull over and gear up real quick and realize everybody on the highway is getting out to watch me and started getting scared. Whatever, I sack up, put in, run it and get my ass handed to me in a hole at the bottom of the rapid, scared the shit out of me....stayed in my boat though.. So traffic starts moving and I'm hiking back to my car and a professional photographer comes up to me and asks me if I'll run it again so he can get some shots. I agreed... Hiked up and ran it again and went upside down twice and got stuck in some weird whirlpool for while but it all worked out. Notice the 19 year old kid I gave a throw bag to, WOW, I'm sure that would have helped!
Anyhooters, I thought I would try to tell the story so everyone knows how big a dumbass I am while their looking at these pictures, or maybe everyone will think I'm cool... Either way it was damn fun!
The Skykomish river was at 12,000cfs that day, the Photographers name is Blake Siebe and his site is www.bsiebe.com Check out the pictures under Eagle Falls, some of them are really good.. ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
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Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 11:43am
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Nice! Gotta love those random 19yr old strangers nice enough to set "safety". ------------- ... preparing for a river beating! |
Posted By: xanthopb
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 11:44am
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Nice work Jake. The 19 year old throw bagger looked like a pro. -Brad------------- O-Qua Tangin Wann |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 11:55am
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Yea for sure bro ... Good work .
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Posted By: erikSANDSTROM
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 12:49pm
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Huge cajones, Caron! Nice job making lemonaide out of stopped traffic lemons. ------------- This river don't go to Aintry. You done taken a wrong turn. |
Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 1:26pm
It's a pretty rare event when you can park n' huck in a traffic jam. Nice work. ![]("http://www.professorpaddle.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif")
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 3:21pm
*shiver* ![]("smileys/smiley20.gif")
------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 3:34pm
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Jake - I'm just wishing you had given the kid the video camera instead of that silly throwbag. whats up with that?! u es loco mutho fo |
Posted By: Chuck e fresh
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 3:49pm
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Yeah that looked burley. he should of had a camera from where he was standing. ------------- There's no such word as can't!so stop making excuses!!!! |
Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 5:46pm
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Nice one, Jake! ------------- "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2007 at 7:09pm
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I thought about giving that kid my camera but decided against it, to much money to put in a strangers hands.. Especially a 19 year old that looked like smokin weed was his main hobby. we'll go back with the video camera's, who's in?? ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: jblum
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 1:13am
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No offense intended dude, but although ballsy, running Eagle Falls solo without good (any) real support is pretty stupid. I'm glad you made it alright, and that we can all have a laugh about your throw bagger who doesn't know what's going on, but this is what whitewater accidents are made of. I'm reading a book right now about what makes accidents happen in outdoor recreation. The three factors that are common to most accidents are judgment (usually bad), actions (doing the wrong things, usually as the results of bad judgments), and conditions (normally unfavorable or pressuring for time, fame, ect...). I found this report interesting Re: people running Eagle Falls to impress their friends on video: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/Accident/detail/accidentid/47/ Boat safe. Boat smart. ------------- JHB |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 5:36am
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Well said, Jonathan. I'm a Libertarian and in general I think that as long as people take responsibility for the outcome of their decisions and don't effect others, they should be able to do whatever they want with their lives. Ride a motorcycle w/o helmet, huck falls, do crystal meth, watch Oprah, etc. etc. Let me say it again, I am the last person that wants to stop someone from pursuing what they think is their passion and I'll defend their rights for individual liberty (again as long as it doesn't hurt others). And, I don't want this thread to devolve into talking about how society would be forced to pay for the attempted rescue on failure, etc. Even though it probably isn't true, let's assume that somehow that really wasn't an issue here. Now then, at the risk of being ostracized by all the real adrenaline junkies, when I was reading this thread (and the thread about the solo free climber), I couldn't help wondering what the comments would have been on the thread if the guy had died or was seriously injured in the attempt. Bad decisions often lead to good outcomes which leads to more bad decisions. Until your luck runs out. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 6:22am
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luck is only a fraction of the equation ...
for some its more, others less.
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 6:23am
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and i'm bout positive Jake aint' lucky,
just motivated.
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 6:24am
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with a
killer roll
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Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 8:36am
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I am sure both Jake and the guy in the other video are super skilled at doing what they are doing. Amazing boaters and amazing climbers. More skilled than I or most mere mortals will ever be. But, still, I have to think that doing these activities without any safety increases risk substantially. Maybe it increases the thrill substantially also. So, that is cool. It is their lives and, like I said before, as long as no one else is hurt, they should go for it. But, for the equation oriented: if good.decision -> bad.outcome then tragedy if bad.decision -> bad.outcome then darwin.award And, to my original question, if the end result was terrible (death or serious injury) what would people be saying on this forum?? ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: Jeff
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 8:40am
SICK! I haven't seen any video, but props for running the falls! I've been eyeing it up and wanting to run it, but not without a creeker. My Pyrannah would just get too worked there. Any beta?![]("http://www.professorpaddle.com/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif") ------------- "What could possibly go wrong?" www.flickr.com/photos/jeffdwyer/ |
Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:12am
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Life's a risk. Some are better at tolerating more than others. Two quick points based on Arn's comments: 1. Lost/Injured hikers are responsible for most SAR time and effort.
2. While it may look reckless, what Dave did was very calculated. He likely knew every single move on that route, knew there were no loose blocks, etc.
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Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:16am
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And, just to be absolutely clear, by "luck" what I am talking about
isn't comparing luck vs. skill but more "dumb bad luck" as in a simple
misstep while climbing; or a loose rock; or being off a couple of
inches on your line and hitting that "hidden danger" while kayaking. In general, people are very bad about assessing risk. Perhaps a simple way of asking the question on running Eagle Falls on peak spring run-off day w/o any safety or climbing a particular peak w/o ropes is to ask, "If I did this 100x, how many times would I be successful - i.e. without death or serious injury?" If that answer isn't 100, then in my book, one successful outcome = luck in the sense that you avoided the "dumb bad luck" scenario. It is not making a statement about the absence of skill rather it is making a statement about an inability to properly assess risk. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: JoesKayak
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:36am
Awww... what's the big deal. It looked basically washed out at this level. Read and run 4-.![]("smileys/smiley36.gif") |
Posted By: jondufay
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:36am
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arno, get off the high horse about bad decision making...isn't there another thread going on right now about you guys getting fucked up on the foss for making a bad decision and not properly assess the risk involved in running a higher class river at a higher than should be flow? ------------- ahh, f--- it dude, lets go boating... |
Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:48am
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Dave has climbed that route hundreds of times, many of them solo. It is class II for him. I will not judge his decision, it was his. ------------- ... preparing for a river beating! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:55am
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Well, I was going to keep my mouth shut on this one. I usually feel like I am the only one who is telling people "that was stupid" instead of "wow you ran the gnar gnar!"
But Blum is right. If you were going to do that, why not wait and set real safety with a real group? The river is not going anywhere. There is no reason to throw yourself into something like that. In case some of you have forgotten, people die in this sport. |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:18am
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This is a fascinating and revealing discussion. I'm not on a high horse and do not appreciate the personal attack, Jon. If you'll recall, I'm the first to say that I made a bad decision. Also, I am not judging his decision and I am the last person to stop him from making it. Like I said, his life, his decision. All, I am talking about is risk and a thought exercise to consider. If you are willing to take that 1 in 100 chance on a certain day that you will die or be seriously injured it means one of three things: 1) You really aren't taking a 1% risk (that is, the actual risk is much lower). 2) Or you aren't doing it very often. 3) Or you are dead man walking. Just to put it in perspective, you have roughly a 1% LIFETIME risk of dying in a car crash. Roughly 50% of the people that take a 1% single event risk would die or be seriously injured if they took this type of risk 50x. Again, I'll ask the question, if the end result of this was death or serious injury, what would the comments on the board be?? ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:18am
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How did this thread go from some stoke to a lecture on risk?
I certainly wouldn't run Eagle Falls or climb 5.10 solo, but I like to hear about it when it's done. I used to teach a college research methods and stats class so I'm all about numbers, but what's the deal with this 1% analyzation stuff. Where'd that number come from anyway?
Arn, I guess I'm not understanding the purpose of your question on what our reaction would be if someone died.
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Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:43am
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edit: felt the need to delete. its not my deal. ------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: mike
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:54am
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If you follow Arnos train of thought, you could pyscho-anaylze boating, and lecture people with much more developed and/or advanced boating skills that chose to take on a more significant risk that what you may deem safe for you. Advanced boaters take their playboats down creek runs, boat scout class V rapids and do a million other things that they may be comfortable with, that you may not be. Bottom line is that you could probaly chose to mitigate your percieved risk of running Eagle Falls with more safety, but than again, I have set safety on this drop for two very good boaters and we all discussed before they ran it that you are bascially on your own once you drop into it and that your ability to hit your line and run the drop cleanly is more important than the limited scope of safety that we were able to set on the drop. If you are a class III boater, I'm not really sure what you are thinking lecturing a class V boater about something that you had nothing to do with and on an issue that you may not really know much about. Class III boaters don't read or run rapids in the same fashion that class V boaters do. |
Posted By: jondufay
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 12:10pm
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mike, you still in bham? still have not got to paddle with you, but would like to someday. ------------- ahh, f--- it dude, lets go boating... |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 12:10pm
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Mike-
Arnold's analysis of this is actually spot on. Just because he is a Class III boater does not mean that he lacks the capacity to criticize a one who boats Class V. Also, I am a Class V boater. And I also said this was a bad, stupid choice (not that he doesn't have the right to make that choice). So yeah, Arn shouldn't be taking all the heat for this. Others feel the same way. |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 12:12pm
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Look, I don't want to lecture anyone. I'm just trying to understand how people look at risky situations (for their own skill level) and the 1% risk thing was just an example to simplify the discussion. I think it is super cool that there are people in the world that are willing to do amazing sporting events and accomplish things that I would never consider. I'm super stoked about that also. I am the first to say that I don't know jack about class V boating but a class V boater is still making a decision about risk on a particular run (albeit with more skill than I'll ever have). When I watch a Twitch video, I think it is super cool. But, what I didn't realize (until someone told me) is all of the safety those guys set, the dummies, empty boats, etc. that they send over the falls before hand to gather more information, scouting, studying, etc. To me, it is still crazy and I wouldn't do it but they are doing tons of things to mitigate risk and then they are making some decision that is right for themselves. Unfortunately, to the average person, it looks like they are just heading out and hucking themselves over the falls. The purpose of my question is simply to understand whether everyone is congratulating someone and celebrating the outcome (which everyone thinks is cool) or you are also celebrating the way in which they achieved the outcome. I consider myself, in general, rather risk averse, some bad decisions aside. I'd really like to understand how others look at it. That is all. And, I'll reiterate, once again. I am the first person to defend someone's right to whatever they want to do with their lives. Their lives, their choices. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 1:26pm
| R.I.P. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 2:40pm
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This is radical... holy Mackerel .... I can't believe that some many people have so much to say about this one. I could totally be wrong here folks but if I know Jake, trash talk is what this whole thread was about to begin with.... He baited all you monkeys... and .... now hes baiting me! Ask Dave if he is more scarred when he is soloing 50 feet off the ground or 5000 feet. He will respond... Whats the difference ... You fall you die. Ask him what the ratio of risk divided by the compound percentage of indigenous caucasion african american males living in or around lake Titicaca is... He will not know what the heck your talking about just like I don't with half the posts up above. I love the internet. ------------- |
Posted By: Jeff
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 3:36pm
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??? I'd still like some beta on the drop... ------------- "What could possibly go wrong?" www.flickr.com/photos/jeffdwyer/ |
Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 3:49pm
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Stay right. ------------- ... preparing for a river beating! |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 5:16pm
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Blah blah blah, you guys need to shut up and go get in your boats! James, hahaha, your hilarious, you totally called me out dude! I posted that shit with a big grin on my face figuring somebody would start crying about safety issues... For the dude who called me stupid all I have to say is fifty people with rope bags aint doin shit at that level brother! Just hold your breath and you'll flush, worst case scenario, lose my boat and paddle. I've ran that drop a bunch of times at many different levels and I think that is the safest level yet.. Too much water pushin through there to get stuck anywhere. Unless a piece of re-bar went up my ass, then I would drown like a stuck pig... Jeez, that would kind of suck.. Unless there was proper safety of course. Oh, by the way, when I ran that, I totally forgot to buckle my helmet cause I was so drunk...
As for anybody who knocks Dave for cliimbing without ropes you obvioulsy don't know Dave so shut the hell up! ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 5:56pm
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I have paddled in 4 countries and 20 states. I have never before seen a community applaud an act that demonstrates disregard for the dangers of the river. Not only that, but in this thread, people criticized those who have legitimate concerns about safety.
So I give up trying to convince people. Bye, PP. |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 7:03pm
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I would hardly say the community is applauding his act. Whether you like it or not your part of the community and your not applauding at all , niether are alot of others in this thread. Like I said before and like Jake confirmed, This whole thread was a plan to rustle folks like KTW up and I can't believe it has gone this far. My goodness jake ... How the heck does running a drop with out safety become a concern for everyone to discuss and whine over. I just don't get it. I still think your nuts and I would not do it but gees... As for Arno, Leave him alone KTW he is just talking about risk assesment. And he has alot of good points. To a hard core boater like Jon boy it just seems like the repetitive nature of the posting required a bit of slappin cause thats jon's style. I think your going a little deeper than you need to in this one. ------------- |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 7:37pm
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Well, I for one am not trying convince anyone of anything - I'm merely posting repetitive and long-winded comments trying to understand how people in the community think about risk. I don't know whether the community is applauding or not. If you read the first 9 postings on this thread they are "congrats, well done, etc." Now, deep down those folks could be thinking exactly what you said James, "I still think you're nuts and I wouldn't do it" but no one said that. And, many people are afraid to post anything for fear of personal attacks. Sadly that is the nature of a forum like this - even though unlike most virtual forums many of the people here actually know each other in real life. The assumption is that silence = consent but often it is just the opposite. Just as an FYI, there is a bit of interesting information about this section of river up at American Whitewater for those that are interested. http://www.americanwhitewater.org/content/River/detail/id/3585/ ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: James
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 7:57pm
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Arno I think your dead on... I doubt a single person that has posted in this thread besides jake has run that drop ![]("smileys/smiley39.gif") and I doubt any of us would even with safety... Without would be ridiculous in my opinon for me. It would not suprise me to find out that rob has soloed it many times either. For some it is just a different deal. I think the difference is that I am just a tad closer to where that line is than you are so it is even harder for you to understand or reason with. And honestly there might not be any reasoning that you can even make. Its just a personal choice and thing. When I said Good Work at the beginning its because he ran a hard drop twice without incident... Thats not just luck folks thats skill and I applaud it. Not because I think we all should go and do it, and I should not have to preface my comments as such. You make your own choices. I think he showed confidence and skill and such I say Good Work. I think the choice to run without safety is not one I would make and not one I would encourage anyone asking for advice to make, and if I was there I would stand by with a rope regardless of what someone wanted but thats niether here nor there because if I recall jake had safety and jake did not have anyone else there. It was as you would say Destiny. ![]("smileys/smiley11.gif") Let this give me added inspiration to get the inncident form done! As for safety ... well all know that it is #1 ... this thread does not reflect that so the next time we bump into each other on the river allow me to de-brief you! J ------------- |
Posted By: PowWrangler
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 8:49pm
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This thread has so inspired me, I think I'm going to go have a safety meeting.
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Posted By: Gabe
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:38pm
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This isn't the first or last time this thread has turned up on PP. Nice though - baiting makes for lively discussions. All I know is that I was lucky enough to just watch Rob M run Tumwater solo at #$@%cfs last Sunday in a freakin' tiny Dagger and I didn't shake my finger at his lack of safety or call him crazy. Guys that can boat like that and put themselves in that kind of mental zone enough to pull it off (it has to be 90% mental preparation) inspire me because that kind of attitude goes beyond just being on the water. I think I said this the last time this whole thing came up, but at some level this is a very safety conscious sport, and that's a great way to approach it. On another level, there are people who operate in this sport in a similar way as big wave surfers. Not all surfers get towed into 75 ft waves, but those who do take a calculated risk that hopefully they are mentally and physically prepared for. Good. Grab the bull by the horns. I don't know you Jake, but if you can put yourself in that state of mind and are lucky enough to be stuck in traffic next to a class V rapid you feel good running, run it. Nice job. Gabe ------------- Pura Vida! |
Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 9:47pm
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Originally posted by Gabe . All I know is that I was lucky enough to just watch Rob M run Tumwater solo at #$@%cfs last Sunday in a freakin' tiny Dagger and I didn't shake my finger at his lack of safety or call him crazy. DUDE. I called him because I needed a PFD on Sunday, and he was like, oh, I'm running Tumwater, bla bla bla, and my brain didn't put two and two together until just about...um... now. I was like, oh, no biggie, have fun. Oh wait. Tumwater was spewing chunks that day. OOPS. Good thing I made sure he had more than one PFD before I took one... Crazy guy that one is. Kudos to those who have the mental ability to do things like that. I'm still working on Boulder Drop? edit: PADDLER STATUS?! ![]("smileys/smiley10.gif") ------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:15pm
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SAFETY IS FOR PUSSIES!!! ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:23pm
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Ah, we've come 360 now. People can bait and people can have fun but in the end safety is serious. You can mock jblum. ktw and I and have fun, that is all good. But, as Mom always said, it is always funny until you poke someone's eye out (with that rebar at the bottom of Eagle Falls). ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:35pm
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Are you sure everyone's mom knew about the rebar?
------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:47pm
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Yeah, I filmed Rob that day and will be posting that footage soon too! The day before I ran Tumwater with him and believe that is why I felt comfortabe running Eagle Falls. Running Chaos a 12K was Eagle Falls times ten as far as I'm concerned! My point being, at those kind of flows running safety is the equivalent of puting an air bag in a jet plane... Pointless.. I looked at Eagle Falls, realized you could sneak the entrance and the last two drops were just GIANT waves, with one big flushy hole... Like I said, worst case scenario, lose a boat, and to be honest I wasn't even worried about that. I would like to say to all the whiney safety dudes that at lower flow I would not go near Eagle Falls without safety, I have had to rope someone out of the first drop of Eagle Falls and I'm pretty sure if I didn't he would have never swam out... Believe it or not, I'm a pretty conservative boater and a nazi about safety. I just know when a rapid is flushing, it's flushing... OH yeah and if I go out and kill myself running a rapid or skiing in the backcountry I think I should be able to do just that without a bunch of boneheads trying to criticize my decision. So one more time, shut the hell up! ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:49pm
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Did you guys run Exit?
------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:54pm
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Oh and about the re-bar, I have scene that rapid with barely any water in it and also talked to someone who has ran it every which way upsidedown and right side up, I won't mention any names (ROB MCKIBBON) and he can't seem to find it. I'm going to tell him to swim over it at super low flows this summer and we'll see if we can find the re-bar for you guys. At 12,000cfs, re-bar ten feet below me was the least of my worries... I'm done ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 10:55pm
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I certainly am not criticizing your decision. Your life, your choice. As far as I'm concerned, you should run Eagle Falls every day for the rest of your life. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: Ryan
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:00pm
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Originally posted by PowWrangler This thread has so inspired me, I think I'm going to go have a safety meeting.
LOL. You gotta always be prepared right!? I hope nobody got thier feelings hurt in this long rediculous thread. As Gabe said this isn't the first time someone has gotten all upset over an internet forum post. Get a life and quit worrying about someone elses. There's no reason to respond and defend yourself of something you said or believe in or re-state the same damn thing you already said. Geez people. On a lighter side here is a great way to cool off during those hot Seattle days http://youtube.com/watch?v=NsNdgwZJ0Gc I would appreciate comments from everyone in the dangers of swimming in Greenlake, riding a childs bicycle as a grown man, and hitting a ramp made of a cabinet door at 5 mph. It was a close call for sure. ![]("smileys/smiley12.gif") |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:02pm
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No, we did not run POW or EXIT, or the WALL! We debated and decided not to, can you believe that? ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: arnobarno
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:05pm
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Ryan, That is a really funny post but what you probably don't realize is that that guy was at Harborview Hospital the next day with a severe case of duck itch. Just like Mom always said, it is always funny until someone gets duck itch. ------------- arn9schaeffer@gmail.com (remove 9 for my real email address) |
Posted By: ashleygoesdisco
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:08pm
I can... ![]("smileys/smiley17.gif") POW looked like all sorts of nasties! ------------- Ashley Duffus Well behaved women rarely make history. www.naiyadays.blogspot.com |
Posted By: ALCOHOLIC
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:18pm
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Yep, way to big for me, even with safety... ------------- Masturbating Monkey |
Posted By: Ryan
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2007 at 11:28pm
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Dude Arn that is me and my roommate. We did not get duck itch and nobody needed to go to the damn hospital. My roommate does however suffer from a scortchy case of herpies. ...j/k There is no reason to apologize so everyone just keep yer mouth (fingers) shut. Alcoholy - POST THE GNAR!! James, can you lock this stupid thread! |
Posted By: Chuck e fresh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2007 at 1:17am
I'm not sure if it was mentioned or not, This post is long and I commented on James other post about soloing. I did joke about the camera thing but it was kinda serious too. Maybey you shouldn't have giving a most likley stoned 19 year old with no river knowlege or even a clue on how to throw a rope bag. And if he had too.. Would he have made it would you have pulled the scronnie kid in then had too save two people. The possibilities are many. That's why you should't bring outside element's into your own ego intended stunt's. Like stonnied 19 year olds, with no life vest on. You might only be aware of this if you expierienced that situation or heard of some kind of simuliare situation, That's what white water rescue classes teach !! If you never had expierience you could still be prepaired this way. you'd be surprised how many medic's, firefighter's cop's ect. don't and never have stepped foot on water but have some knowledge of how to be safe and keep inocent bi-standerds out of the scene. I think that is the biggest factor in you running it the way you did. But I still say sick !!! You did well and luck wasn't or dosn't have too be on your side to have other's hurt. The out come was outstanding though ,and mad prop's too ya. I would love to film or be a safty for you sometime. In time I'm sure I'll run it![]("http://professorpaddle.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif") Untill then I'll just watch the big boy's and add my six cent's..sick scense.. sixth scence !!![]("http://professorpaddle.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif") A wise man once said,"Take it as you want it ,and get it where you can but leave in better shape than you found it !! We'll see if it's ever repeated!!! ------------- There's no such word as can't!so stop making excuses!!!! |
Posted By: Chuck e fresh
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2007 at 1:20am
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Ohh yeah, Stop making my post's go backward's James !!! I'm trying to hit infinity !!!! ------------- There's no such word as can't!so stop making excuses!!!! |