Wood on the Green
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Printed Date: 15 Jul 2025 at 11:34am
Topic: Wood on the Green
Posted By: dave
Subject: Wood on the Green
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2010 at 7:40pm
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Theres new wood here and there, but the worst is in lets make a deal. The tree is wedged in the rock that Stano died in and blocking the right channel completely. You may want to go river left in that area until it is cleared which may be a while. ------------- Nomad |
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Posted By: GHannam
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2010 at 8:45pm
| Thanks for the info, Dave |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2010 at 9:37pm
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I also broke my Carbon Werner Player on the Green. Rolled in a low water boulder garden and snap! No more Werner....it was pretty worn out anyway...Santa, please get me a new paddle for christmas... ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: JayB
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2010 at 2:34pm
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Seemed like the logs on the RR side of the drop just upstream from the bridge were worse than I remembered as well. There's a sneak line (hard to see from upstream) to the left of the logs - but most of the water on the RR side of the island is heading right for the logs. Right now the channel to the left of the Island is clear - but that could change at any time so it might not hurt to have at least one person get out of the boat and take a look at the channels on both sides of the island before heading down. ------------- -Jay |
Posted By: jella
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 5:47pm
| What is the "door"? are these drops, or rapids? |
Posted By: Courtney
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 5:52pm
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Jella,
He's just talking about 3 different routes to take through that area to get around the tree's. One is blocked, another is partially blocked and the last is clear.
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Posted By: jella
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 6:39pm
| Ohhh okay. Thanks Courtney! |
Posted By: dave
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 8:12pm
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If your with me I have the whole run memerized and all the wood locations too, so no worries... ------------- Nomad |
Posted By: jella
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2010 at 10:38pm
awesome! Thanks Dave. 
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Posted By: chipmaney
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2010 at 11:18am
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Originally posted by slickhorn At least one of the logs in Let's Make A Deal is badged as being from the cabled in logjams from upriver. Great to see our tax dollars going to create new river hazards. Given the amount of wood we have to deal with on every river, It's a little disingenuous to pick out what may be a planted log as a culprit endangering paddlers. Such structures are intended not only to augment salmon habitat but also to stabilize streambanks in a manner resembling nature. The alternative is installing a hardened bank or doing nothing, the former providing zero habitat and an ugly, unnatural view and the latter likely introducing more wood over the long-term (unstable banks would lead to increased recruitment of wood from the top of banks) than a bank stabilized with placed wood. It is also important to keep in mind that the wood placement is intended to (partially) replace the natural wood recruitment that would be occurring if there weren't a giant dam upstream. So, from the quoted perspective, we should be thanking the river managers for keeping relatively clean a river reach that otherwise would be chocked full of wood. Finally, we deal with wood all the time anyway, and I feel it is short-sighted to take the view that river management should only somehow prioritize kayaking over other vested interests, particularly those that deal with trying to preserve natural ecological function. I write this not as a challenge but from an educational perspective in the hope that all kayakers first view themselves not simply as river users but river stewards. ------------- sitting all alone on a mountain by a river that has no end |
Posted By: jella
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2010 at 3:58pm
| nicely said. |
Posted By: peteg
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2010 at 4:05pm
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Wood from fish habitat structures often has cables attached which can make it even more dangerous than wood that got into the stream naturally. There are bad ways to do create fish habitat and good ways. Sometimes the ones creating the habitat structures know very little about hydrology and the force of moving water and even less about the danger these structures can create for recreational boaters when they are initially placed or when they fail. So yes, I'd rather have them do nothing or just dump the logs in the river and let nature do the work rather than do it wrong. pete |
Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2010 at 5:09pm
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Well said, Pete. ------------- "Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman |