Pretty sure you are a bigger richer person then I am so... as a first generation hustling whitewater kayaker, third generation construction house painter... When was the last time you've kayaked & where?

   P.S. I'm used to working with veterans, getting hit & cons as far as construction goes.... Been kind of getting out of thee newbish MMA, so i'd be happy to spar with you as well for a good gab. When you put the gloves on.... "no comment" - Learn

   Haha, thanks James. Was bored after a 12 hour day responding to Joes message. Gah, haven’t seen that guy in what seems like forever... Today was only a 8ish hour day remodeling an interior so it’s better now. These guys are going to make bank
   I saw and talked to Dufay when having Dinner with some family on First Street in Snohomish. He was having a great time with his wife and what seemed to be her girlfriend.
   Ahh, haven’t seen Brad since we were paddling Robe a few months ago.
   Speaking of Robe what’s the lowest it’s ever been ran? It’s seems like 4.8 or lower becomes more exploratory. Kind of wanting to do a multi day in there also