Pretty sure you are a bigger richer person then I am so... as a first generation hustling whitewater kayaker, third generation construction house painter... When was the last time you've kayaked & where?

   P.S. I'm used to working with veterans, getting hit & cons as far as construction goes.... Been kind of getting out of thee newbish MMA, so i'd be happy to spar with you as well for a good gab. When you put the gloves on.... "no comment" - Learn