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JoesKayak
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   Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 8:36am |
Brian, this is what I noticed on the Babine description: The River corridor is also home to the highest concentration of Grizzly
Bears in North America and is rich with cultural history.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 9:53am |
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I don't know B - I would pack some bear mace if it were me.
Of course that would not do much for the rattlesnakes ... Definitely want to pack a gun for those, after all you could not possibly out run one or evade it in the average encounter. Better be ready to protect yourself. Plus why would you want to let one get away, Bears make sweet rugs and snakes are after all why we got kicked out of the garden right? I hear the bumble bees up there are pretty big too!
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 10:15am |
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The original poster doesn't mention week long multidays, in fact, they mention the Sky, so mentioning day runs seems reasonable.
But, the Babine does look like good manageable fun.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 10:18am |
First I never saw the week long stipulation. I just got rafting trip at first, then multiday was added and I totally failed at catching the middle of summer part. Chances are he is not even reading all this nonsense anyways but ... since you might look, I will conceed. Your right ok! Gees I would never dream of challenging the multiday master to a rubber round off. That being said, I am totally down to check out the Vermillion this summer, interested? I mean it looks epic gorgeous!!! 
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 10:21am |
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Oh, there it is buried in the middle. My bad.
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DrSpeed
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 11:35am |
James and Slickhorn,
Thanks for the kick ass feedback.
Reading all of this is like drinking out of a firehose!!! There's a lot of information to process, given that I'm a greenhorn.
Yes, we are comfortable being outdoors, half of us have done the John Muir Trail, so I'm sure we can whip the others into shape or beat them if they start whining/complaining.
The trip length is up to discussion at this point. It will probably wrap around a weekend, perhaps July 4th, so we can maximize our time off with the minimal amount of vacation time.
So, that being said, it may not need to be a week, but an overnight raft ride, then another night in the next closest city would work out well.
Something like:
Day 1: fly in, camp/hotel.
Day 2: start rafting trip - camp out
Day 3: continue rafting trip - then drive into city to stay at a hotel
Day 4: recover from staying in city, fly home.
it would be great if we can continue down the same river. Some outfits will bring the food and cook it, but that's not a requirement.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 1:09pm |
Cars should be easy. I've got a pickup and a sedan that we can shuttle people up in one trip.
My main concern/fear is water levels in the dead middle of summer, especially with the low snow pack this year. Wait...NO snowpack this year....  |
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jP
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 1:13pm |
Originally posted by James
I don't know B - I would pack some bear mace if it were me.
Of course that would not do much for the rattlesnakes ... Definitely want to pack a gun... Better be ready to protect yourself.
I'm Sorry!! I'm Sorry!! ---irresistable!
But that Vermillion pic was alluring indeed.
Here's my advice to DrSpeed: If you want to do a solid class IV whitewater trip and/or mulitday, it may be worth it to at least skim read some basic literature on whitewater safety if you haven't been rafting much. You've got months to plan this. Yeah you'll be going with a professional outfitter and all, but some prior familiarization before hand will enhance your enjoyment and bolster your safety. As a participant in any river trip you and your companions share the responsibility of your collective safety. That's part of what makes it such a satisfying adventure.
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JoesKayak
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 2:07pm |
Originally posted by DrSpeedJames and Slickhorn,
Thanks for the kick ass feedback.
Reading all of this is like drinking out of a firehose!!! There's a lot of information to process, given that I'm a greenhorn.
Yes, we are comfortable being outdoors, half of us have done the John Muir Trail, so I'm sure we can whip the others into shape or beat them if they start whining/complaining.
The trip length is up to discussion at this point. It will probably wrap around a weekend, perhaps July 4th, so we can maximize our time off with the minimal amount of vacation time.
So, that being said, it may not need to be a week, but an overnight raft ride, then another night in the next closest city would work out well.
Something like:
Day 1: fly in, camp/hotel.
Day 2: start rafting trip - camp out
Day 3: continue rafting trip - then drive into city to stay at a hotel
Day 4: recover from staying in city, fly home.
it would be great if we can continue down the same river. Some outfits will bring the food and cook it, but that's not a requirement.
The Rogue River would work great for a schedule like that... and you can either take a trip that camps on the river or a lodge trip where you stay at lodges on the way down. And you can fly in to Grant's Pass airport which is super close to the river.
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DrSpeed
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Posted: 26 Feb 2010 at 9:32am |
Originally posted by jP
Here's my advice to DrSpeed: If you want to do a solid class IV whitewater trip and/or mulitday, it may be worth it to at least skim read some basic literature on whitewater safety if you haven't been rafting much. You've got months to plan this. Yeah you'll be going with a professional outfitter and all, but some prior familiarization before hand will enhance your enjoyment and bolster your safety. As a participant in any river trip you and your companions share the responsibility of your collective safety. That's part of what makes it such a satisfying adventure.
Great reminder - sometimes we need to be reminded of the basics. Rafting for me is about once a year, so I will do that for sure, and make sure the rest of the group becomes informed as well. Safety first.
Originally posted by JoesKayak
The Rogue River would work great for a schedule like that... and you can either take a trip that camps on the river or a lodge trip where you stay at lodges on the way down. And you can fly in to Grant's Pass airport which is super close to the river.
Joe - looking into it right now. I like that it's close to WA. 
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DrSpeed
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 10:39am |
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
The trip has been planned - we will be going to Portland, where we'll be rafting the White Salmon River.
Hopefully Husom Falls will be open on July 4th weekend!
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Posted: 22 Apr 2010 at 10:50am |
There's a safe likelyhood your wishes will be granted, I doubt it will be too high to run Hussum, but if it is then the rest of the trip will be more fun, so its kind of a trade off.
Sounds like a good plan, though!
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