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  Quote 1150lbsofaire Replybullet Topic: rafts on icicle
    Posted: 08 May 2008 at 4:56pm
me and a pal are gonna R2 it sat and were wondering if anyone out there has rafted or catboated it and what sections, i would love to know its history,hans
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 10:31am
The whole creek sans Bridge Drop, Snow Creek and the Sieve have been run in a Cat Boat by Becker, I know that much. I am not sure how many IK's and rafts, but Fish would know since he is one of that small group of IKers on Richochet.

Be careful out there Hans.... The history of that creek is not friendly to inflatables and even less friendly to swimmers. It's character is that of a tight small steep creek with many exposed rocks and tight channels, some good some not. Certainly something I would not want to raft down at all... but I am sure it could be done. What ever your call is please take care out there and certainly consider safety in many places from the shore with additional people.

I have seen milli-second swims in there turn into substantial injuries and a lengthy one could easily be fatal if not close. If your looking for safety or a good guide call Chris Totten he is local and very skilled with all the local knowledge you need!!!!
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  Quote Fish Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 10:53am
Yes, you can boat this section in a Raft, Catboat, and IK.  I have oared and Ik'd the Richochet section with the Beckers at many different different water levels. (see new LVM) 
I'm not about to discourage you from this section, it's been rafted a bunch by many different teams,  and is very manageable... but  swims are long.    I'll be there this weekend with my raft and kayaks, who knows... maybe i'll boat it with ya.
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 11:18am
I am not trying to discourage anyone, I just think that the consquences of a swim are a tad more serious on icicle. Plus there is nothing wrong with suggesting safety on that creek, escpecially if there is any chance of a swimmer!!!

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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 12:18pm
In Bennett's book there is an account of him and Doc Loomis R2ing Icicle... sounds like they had a great time on the middle section and then decided to head down into the Ricochet section (this is before it was named) and had less than perfect results (i.e. scary ass swim).

A nice thing about Icicle is multiple access points and runs, you can choose the section you want to run. Lower Icicle is a nice run to do before trying the harder stuff upstream (it is a still a formidable run with some beefy holes) the main problem for rafts is a long take-out.
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  Quote slickhorn Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 1:44pm
James, you wouldn't be suggesting that Fish is downplaying the consequences, would you?  lol

Fish -- when did you get a raft?  sweet!!
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 1:55pm
Good luck! 
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  Quote 1150lbsofaire Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 2:51pm

thanks all, ya i wasn't thinking of running ricochet Yet, there is alot of icicle that i would like to see first. james,when you say becker ran the sieve do you mean the snow creek death trap? fish,me and rick will be up there all day tommorow so keep a eye out for us,hans

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  Quote H2Ohta Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 3:04pm
The sieve drop is in the Ricochet section below the curler and Horseshoe.  I don't know if you will want to go that far but we can figure that out tommorrow.  Give me a holler in the morning and we can meet up.
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 09 May 2008 at 5:34pm
Yea when I said sans; I meant becker ran the middle section minus the bridge creek, snow creek and sieve rapids. Meaning she ran the Richochet Section and most of the bonus rounds below. I did not see it but I heard from enough people to know its probably true. Pretty amazing in a cat boat, if you ask me... 
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 10 May 2008 at 1:44pm
Yeah, In my opinion Cats are more cut out for that kind of run than a typical  R2 set-up, but really, it all comes down to the expertise of the participants.
 
Swimming anywhere on the Ricochet section would definitely NOT be fun.
 
One of the best things about Icicile is the scout-ability of it, and the many different sections to choose from.
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