Originally posted by kayaktheworld

I truly cannot believe that anyone is considering going out today. The disregard for safety, especially from one of the better paddlers mentioned, is shameful and arrogant. To think that you can combat the cold conditions is simply foolhardy.

---So why is it "shamefull and Arrogant"?  There was ABSOLUTELY NO DISREGARD FOR SAFETY. For the record, the most dangerous part was post-holing down to the put in at Cable Drop. Once we got paddling, well, my toes were cold from walking through snow. Then, they WARMED UP!! Drysuits are AMAZING!! I layered up so thick, my hands were RADIATING heat from my pogies. Fingers and toes were warm the whole time.

I will repeat myself. THERE IS ICE IN THE EDDIES. And, since stating the facts did not seem to work, I will explain them as well. Ice covering eddies means that a swimmer would have to break through ice. You could end up UNDER THE ICE.

----- Yeah, there were large ice sheets at the following locations: In the big eddy at Cable drop Put-in, and in the big eddy at the Split rock take out. Yeah, if you act like a dpishit, or aren't Qualified to be out there, you could probably find yourself in trouble. It's true. So if you want ot paddle in such conditions, yuo MUST NOT FUCK UP. Don't flip, don't lose control, and it's just another trip down the sky.

In the near 0 degree temps and 32 degree water, you would probably be hypothermic instantly and have a lot of difficulty swimming to the frozen eddie through the slush.

---damn right. you have no bussiness being out there if you might swim. maybe it's good YOU weren't there? I don't know. Don't know you. Don't know how you boat. I just know from the way you shoot your mouth off that you are an alarmist.

You guys need to realize that although the river is class III/IV in regular weather, you need to consider it class IV/V (at least). You should not only consider this run class IV/V in difficulty but also in danger. In the case of safety, I cannot help but be brutally honest: Not a single one of you is a class V paddler. Rob Mickibbon should know better. As a good boater he should know better. He should realize the complete lack of safety. He should also be a better example for the community. I can't believe it.

---First off, Rob wasn't wereing ANY pants. OR any other clothes but a life jacket. He had icicles collecting on his armpit hairs, but that didn't stop him from throwing down at Luch Hole. Just kiddin, Rob DIDN'T EVEN GO. His gear was frozen from some previous icy trip. He wanted me to tell you though that next time he'll call and ask your permission before he goes out paddling.
-----Second, Rob is everybit of a class V paddler, and anyone who knows him knows that. You're a f**king idiot. Don't try to project your comfort zone onto other people. Whatever you do PLEASE refrain from trying to tell people who they are, esspeccially when you don't even know them, or how they paddle.

You guys are probably getting close to the river right now so hopefully you come to these realizations on your own. I hope that none of you is injured or worse in this endeavor.

---your token comment about hoping we're not injured is so transparently inscincere:
A way to cap off your bucket full of crap and make you sound like you care.
Well, guess what? we're all ok, we had a GREAT time, we were safe, and stayed warm.