Rivers for NW Climate Change Study
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Topic: Rivers for NW Climate Change Study
Posted By: kebm1979
Subject: Rivers for NW Climate Change Study
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 12:19pm
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Posted By: BRoss
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 2:47pm
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You could try the Sandy River. I know I've seen commercial raft trips on the river, I think Blue Sky and River Drifters both do it Super popular run because it's close to portland and has class II-IV+. Plus, they just removed the dam, although I guess I don't know if the flow data since dam removal is enough for your analysis. Problem is, it's not run as a multiday river. It does have several sections though, so you could do it... Couple of other rivers that are a little lesser traveled, and so might not be appropriate, but are run as multidays by commercial raft companies. Pretty sure these don't have dams... Grande Ronde John Day Cool project! |
Posted By: ThrowYaMittsUp
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 3:09pm
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Kristian, I would suggest both the NF Nooksack and Sauk. They are not the most popular runs, but they do have commercial rafting. I'm not sure of total numbers, but I believe there are four commercial permits on each river. As far as I know, there are no dams that affect the flow on either of the runs. There is a diversion dam for the Nooksack Falls Hydro Project, but it is well upstream of the section that the raft trips are run on, and the water is returned to the river not far below the falls. Water from the Middle Fork is diverted into Lake Whatcom, but also does not affect the flow in the rafting sections. I am less familiar with the Sauk, but as far as I know, the flow is unregulated. I guide on both of these rivers and I would be happy to put you in contact with the outfitter that I work for. In the past, they have worked with NSEA, a salmon conservation group, and I would imagine that they would be more than happy to help with your project PM me if you need anymore info. Peace, Brian |
Posted By: Texas Dave
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 5:17pm
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I'm not sure about dams, but the Klickatat may be a good one. It's run commercially in the spring and makes a great overnighter.
Brian, I'm pretty sure the Sauk isn't dammed or if it is, it's well below the sections that are rafted. ------------- Dave |
Posted By: Wiggins
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2009 at 9:35pm
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No dams on the Sauk.
Kyle ------------- I smell bacon |
Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 8:17am
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Originally posted by kebm1979 file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CKristian%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml -
I would like to study a multiday river in OR or WA, but the problem is finding
one that is popular, comes in regularly, and doesn't have much
regulation. Both the Deschutes and Rogue have multiple dams upstream, the
Owyhee and file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5CKristian%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml - For WA/OR multiday rivers that
lack upstream water management, I don't think you can find a better
subject than the Grand Ronde. It sees a lot of commercial traffic, even
more if you include sport fishing or hunting guide services, and has a
long season. A similar river would the John Day, though I know there's at least a diversion or two there above Service crick. The Lower Main Salmon or Main Salmon might also be worth looking at.Other than the Rogue, there's really not a multiday whitewater industry in OR or WA that compares to Idaho's industry. ------------- |
Posted By: dragorossinw
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 9:43am
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OR - Grande Ronde
John Day
for sure ------------- Tony Z dragorossinorthwest@yahoo.com www.nookiekayaking.us www.dragorossi.com www.donkeyfIip.com |
Posted By: kebm1979
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2009 at 1:14pm
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Thanks for all the feedback. I've looked into the Grande Ronde, and I think it could work. It does have some diversions on it for agriculture, but as long as the overall hydrograph of the system isn't modify from it's natural pattern I think these issues can be dealt handled within reason. I will look more into the Sauk, and it's feesibilty for the study. I'd kind of like to limit it two rivers in WA, OR, & ID so I think the Sky and Wenatchee could be the best fit for Wa. Then probably the Clack and Grande Ronde for OR, and the Middle Fork Salmon and Lochsa for ID. This work is part of whole bigger PNW river study so hopefully a lot of this information for flows should be available online by the fall. Thanks again for all the feedback, and let me know if you have any questions for me. ------------- Everyday has at least one happy hour |