BC Breakdown Discussion Thread
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Topic: BC Breakdown Discussion Thread
Posted By: James
Subject: BC Breakdown Discussion Thread
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 9:19am
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This is the BC Breakdown discussion thread. Please post any questions below. Remember the actual Trip Details are located on the BC Breakdown | Trip Page This trip's details have changed. Please check out the trip page for more info.
J
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Posted By: rockarolla
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2007 at 6:02pm
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! familure peaple coming up I cant what! the Chek , Soo, CAL all good to go I got all three dialed. right on brothers and sisters I hope to see everybody soon long live Metal
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Posted By: water wacko
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 7:44am
Let me know if you need some pallets. I have more than enough ready for pick up.
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"Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive." ~Howard Thurman
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Posted By: huckin harms
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 8:36am
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yeah yeah,
we should be good to go on this trip.
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Posted By: Sisu
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 9:46am
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Hey James,
This is John -- I paddled with you last Sunday on the Tumwater. I'm definitely planning on heading up to BC that weekend and look forward to getting in some runs with you guys.
John
ps -- If anyone needs a ride up, shoot me a pm or email to jhjamnback at aim.com.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 10:11am
Rad John... I am not sure what the carpool scene is lookin like yet but I am pretty sure that I am going with my wife on this one so I won't need a carpool but I am sure others might.
It's gonna be off da hizzy!
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Posted By: Otter Boy
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 12:09pm
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I'm heading up with a group from 8/17 to 8/26. We'll start in the Nahatlach area, head up to the Clearwater, down to the Bridge and end up in/around Whistler. I'd love to hook up with people. Let's start a contact list for people who will be up in the area this month.
I can be reached at 425 301 8538. Given how far out in the woods we'll be I suggest using text messaging rather than voice.
- B
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Posted By: Sisu
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2007 at 3:18pm
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Bryon,
Hey, I'm glad you are going to be up there. I am going to try to arrange it so I can maybe stay a couple more days and paddle with you and your group after that weekend.
John
cell 206 949 1549
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Posted By: used2climb
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 7:40am
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Hey, I'm interested. Been with family for a couple weeks, though (in a hot, dry state), so will be looking for mostly III/III+, especially in Whister/Squamish area and possibly add some climbing in, too. Any of you hoping to do some runs like that? My dates are pretty flexible, including week days.
Erik G
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 2:19pm
Trip Details might be changing. Just keep your heads up. I might be heading somewhere else with D1 if the flows change. I will keep the trip updated as the week continues.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 12:04pm
D1 is officially calling it quits up at Whistler.
The flows on the Callaghan are now too low and the flows on the Cheak are low also. There are a few other creeks in the area that Dave is going to check out but the chances are that he will be heading back to the states by Thursday at the latest.
This means that whister is not going to be the spot to hit, and if anyone is really into BC we will need to plan a good destination out before just heading up.
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Posted By: Sisu
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 12:42pm
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How about Nahatlach/Chili/Bridge or any combination thereof? Anyone interested?
John
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 1:01pm
John - Its now a nat/stien/bridge trip.
Bridge is most likely too low, and the Chili is definitely out. But Nat and others are good to go. I am going to head up there Thursday night and we will camp at the apocynum campground. Boat all day Friday and either camp again at the apocynum or somewhere else group depending.
James
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Posted By: Sisu
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 1:10pm
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James -- sounds great. I'll see you at the campground Thursday night.
John
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Posted By: slickhorn
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 1:40pm
I don't think the bridge is ever unrunnably low. There's a minimum fish release from the dam + flow from yalokum, we've gone in mid late august and been able to run the bridge before.
definitely minimum flow, but it's still fun splashy III mostly, with only a couple significant drops.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 1:41pm
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The Cheak is too low? Now I am pissed...I tried to get a trip up there together...and now you are telling me it is too late this season? What gives - it should be running for another month, shouldn't it?
I am game for a Nahatlatch trip - I'll probably take of Friday and return on Sunday.
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Posted By: Heather
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 10:14pm
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Justin and I will head up from Bellingham Friday after work. We'll probably get to the campground around 9pm depending on the boarder. We have room for 1 other person if anyone wants to carpool, but we are bringing the dog! We are game for other rivers, but plan to head home Sunday evening for work on Monday. The Nahatlatch should be fun!
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 7:28am
Leif,
You should have hit it up with Heather last weekend. It was at a great level.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 12:07pm
Ok so here it is everyone.... the campsite we are going to be staying at is actually farther up the nahatlatch road on the lake. I like staying on the water.
We will be running the river all day friday and sat, so just find the van and you will be set. To get to the Nahatlatch follow these directions:
- Take Highway #1 east, the Trans Canada Highway, through Abbottsford, Chilliwack and on to Hope.
- Exit #170 at Hope and Fraser Canyon Destinations.
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Follow the signs through Hope town centre and resume on Highway #1 east
through the Fraser Canyon. Do not take Highway #3 or #5.
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Boston Bar, turn left opposite Young's gas station. Cross over the
railroad tracks and the Fraser River and proceed north through the town
of North Bend. Stay on the main road for around 11 miles or so. Maybe 12. The Canyon run take out is around mile 4, the canyon run putin is around mile 9, the playrun putin where we are camping is around mile 12 or 13 something like that.
See yas there!
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Posted By: Adrian
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 8:57pm
Me, Samson and Jeff(maybe) will be there too.
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Adrian (20six) 34nine 6two51
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Posted By: Jeff
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 9:12pm
Pretty sure I'm in. Will know for sure tommrow afternoon. Hope to see ya'll there, eh!
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Posted By: justin
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2007 at 12:17am
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I can't wait to be up in that area again. I wish it was friday night right now.
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Posted By: Otter Boy
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2007 at 7:16am
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My group is going to be in the area Monday and maybe Tuesday if anyone wants to stay later. Unfortunately family obligations keep me in town until Sunday.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 11:48am
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Posting here too to make sure I cover everyone...
I have a blue "tripod" seat someone left at the camp site. Somebody please claim it, as it is remarkably uncomfortable.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 11:58am
I think that Tripod is Franz Horner's....
Thanks everyone for showing up. It was an awesome trip. The first run of the day was a bit un-organized and there were some improvements to be made for round 2. But the second go around was awesome. Some raft carnage, a few swimmers and some sweet lines through the Nozzle.
Great job out there everyone and a big thanks to Brad for hooking up the raft for the second run, it was much needed! The drive over Kookapei Pass is awesome. Great views awesome creeks and quite remote. Big Silver was sweet and certainly deems another visit with more water. Over all I had a blast and I hope you all had a good time too.
Till the next adventure!
J
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 12:05pm
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So, Jon and I took the drive too - quite amazing. A few frightning bridges, and some remarkable scenery. The creek along the road prior to big silver main (clear creek?) was pretty spectacular. We stoped and looked at this one waterfal that was like a supersized version of crack in the earth - a big pourover heading into a headwall, turning 90 degrees, and pouring into another pool. There were some kayakers running it (two trucks) - I'd be curious to know what the class rating was. The lower kookapei looks runable with some more water, as well...
- Leif
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 12:28pm
Leif... The two trucks were Me, Brad, Erik, Chris, Hilary and Matt doing the big silver. We left our cars down farther where we met up with Erik and the others.
Not sure which falls your talking about. There are alot on this section. The big 30 footer has changed and no one ran that. There is now this nasty nasty sieve sucker right at the top that is just scarier than scary... If that just weren't there!
You might have also been looking at the water falls just as Kookapei road connects with big silver or East Harrison FSR. That has not been run, and it looks to be impossible as all the water just pours into a nasty headwall that is back in a dark pocket.
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 12:43pm
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The most impressive falls were the ones where kookapei connects to east harrison fsr. Quite clear that they were unrunnable, but we took a closer look just because of how impressive they were. There were two trucks parked below the falls, one at a large pool with about a 30' falls on river left, and the other truck down the way a bit, but prior to harrison east fsr intersecting big silver main.
My understanding was that you guys were on big silver (the book does say everyone walks the falls). I thought I remember the creek along harrison east being clear creek, but I can't remember.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 1:26pm
Ok so you are most likely reading some off beta bud.
Big Silver that is in the guide books is a III/IV play run with a 15 foot waterfall in the middle of the run. That is most likely what you are taking about. That is way way way down lower.
The portion where you saw the trucks was way up top. That is the Upper Stretches. The 30' Falls is the putin for that run and the other truck is where the take out is. Oh yea, I am the only person that really knows the right way from the river to the take out vehicle, so if you want directions let me know.
J
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 3:04pm
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Ok, Looked at - maps.gov.bc.ca. No name... Clear Creek is the next inflow to the Big Silver south. I did some searches, and I guess it is called big silver creek (as opposed to big silver river with the III/IV run). Got this from TRL - pics match what I saw. What part of this did you ran?
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 3:33pm
Yea thats the same run that we did. The only difference is that the big waterfall at the top is now different post highwater. There is now a large sieve at the lip of the falls with a good portion of water dumping into it. It is super scary. The boulder gaurding the sieve was changed or moved. It is now a pretty dicey move!
J
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 3:39pm
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In trying to figure out what things were, keep in mind that I navigated back without a map...
The run looked pretty sweet, but what would you rate it at this level? IV-V, V, V+?
I was amazed how deep the pool was at the bottom of the first waterfall you come to (under the bridge), and how clear the water was. It must have had some incredible scenery in the canyon.
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 3:44pm
It was easily one of the more amazing gorges I have ever been in. Awesome ... just awesome!
I would say that at low water it is IV+, medium water it would be IV-V and high water it would be V. The only thing is that you can't have sloppy lines in some of the rapids. There are a few manky ones but tons of clean ones too!
J
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Posted By: RemAcct2
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2007 at 4:07pm
I'd like to run it sometime...
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Posted By: jerryj
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2007 at 6:58pm
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James -
Good to paddle with you last weekend on the Upper Birkenhead. This is Jerry from Atlanta. Just checking out your website; very cool. Looks like you still have good water in WA, and BC as well. We're already planning our return to BC next year. Maybe WA/OR in the Spring for some of those classic Cascade runs.
Take care,
Jerry Jascomb
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JJ
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Posted By: James
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 3:09pm
Posted By: jerryj
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 3:27pm
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Nice photos, James. Yeah, we all enjoyed the hell outta BC - fantastic place. Our crew is compiling photos and videos of the trip, I'll make sure you're on the copy list. Alex has a website, most of it will probably be posted there. He's currently editing.
I'm in Honduras right now, but not boating - work. Thanks for the links, and I'll be in touch.
Jerry
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JJ
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Posted By: Erik
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 7:54pm
FYI - there is an unrunnable 30' falls in the middle of the III/IV run down low in the drainage.
Can't remember if it's before or after the 15 footer.
I'm bummed about the 30 footer at the put-in of the upper run. That thing is fugly now.
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Posted By: tradguy2
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2007 at 2:43pm
Man, those pictures of Silver Creek are amazing! I got to get up there.
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... preparing for a river beating!
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