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mcruni2000
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  Quote mcruni2000 Replybullet Topic: North fork Cispus
    Posted: 30 May 2010 at 8:38am
If anyone is/has been interested in running the NF, I can put your curiosity to rest....... It was a two-and-a-half mile log portage. I think we probably portaged 20-25 times in 2.7 miles. I don't think this section will be clear of wood in my lifetime. Just thought I'd spread the word.

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  Quote water wacko Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2010 at 8:58am
Thanks for the thankless work of discovering this useful beta Ryan. We, not unlike yourself, found some wood in the upper 2.5 miles of Johnson Creek. The guidebook warned it's a loggier section. I think we boated about 400 yards of the first mile. It took us three hours to do the run. Unless you're looking for a REAL different kind of boating trip, hit this one. More wood than any OP run I've been on (or any other for that matter). I am still glad I did it. Now I have a personal standard for "more timber than I would prefer to kayak around".
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  Quote mcruni2000 Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2010 at 4:25pm
Yeah.... that sucks. I've read the description for Johnson, and seen some TR's from a time when it was wood free, and it looks awesome. Maybe I'll forgo that one until someone does it again and posts a wood free TR. Maybe I'll get out to Summit Creek and see if it's wood free!
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2010 at 7:51pm
guys, thanks for the heads up! I'm removng both from my "to do" list!

Too bad you had to find out the hard way.

One good turn deserves another:
Yall don't need to waste your time with the Upper Hamma Hamma, either. It's not just that there is a lot of woodin it (there certainly is) but even the "clean" rapids and drops are not "clean"- they are junkyards of the sh*ttiest basalt rock you can find anywhere.
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  Quote Travisimo Replybullet Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 12:14pm
Can somebody send me a TR for Johnson when it was clean?  I did it in 2003
http://cascadeclassics.org/Kayaking/Johnson/Winter03/Johnson_Winter03.htm

Even way back then it had the largest logjam I have EVER seen... even puts the new canyon creek one to shame.


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  Quote wallyworld Replybullet Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 4:49pm
I see my less-than-rosy N.F. Cispus alert from last May went unread. I know what you went through, and I'm sorry. Them's some big trees in there too!!
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  Quote mcruni2000 Replybullet Posted: 01 Jun 2010 at 7:06pm
I read it when I got home, and wished I'd read it pre-trip. We were planning on doing the NF, and then Yellowjacket afterwards. We were so dead tired that we just drove back to Portland, tails between our legs. It's cool though, I need to get in shape for a Tshletshy!!!
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 02 Jun 2010 at 3:24pm
yeah- man! Tshletshy is on my hit list too.
 
It's funny- I get all excited about putting beta up on the pages here, but before I go out to run something new, I never really check any online beta. Hell I don't even check the guidebook anymore! I should. What good is all of this info if we never use it? Particularly where a Suffer-Fest Alert is warrented.
 
Anyway, upward and onward, Ryan!
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