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  Quote WA-Boater Replybullet Calendar Event: Canyon Creek Race 2010
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  Quote dragorossinw Replybullet Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 10:07am
Negative that:  It is going to be on the E. Fork Lewis as last year, so all skill levels, come on and Compete!  The permit from the FS was pulled for the EFL, and there is still tons of wood on Canyon Cr.  We are still working out the camping/ party venues and will have that posted when finalized.
 
See you at the RACE!
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 10:54am
Oly's again?
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  Quote dragorossinw Replybullet Posted: 07 Feb 2010 at 2:04pm
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We are still working out the camping/ party venues and will have that posted when finalized.
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:04am
Thanks for the update, Tony!
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 9:17am
What happened - too many kayakers piss on Oly's lawn?
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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:08am
Maybe he felt like his kindness was taken for granted.
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:10am
I wouldn't be surprised.  I heard there were quite a few incidents last year.  It is unfortunate when our community behaves badly...
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 11:36am
What region did the people hail from who caused the problems?
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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 1:43pm
No matter where it ends up.  We should all help keep it clean etc.  We are ambassadors to the world.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 2:48pm
Yall are funny.
 
Look- you gotta conceptualize that Oly is a whitewater Veteran. Everyone knows this, but people don't seem to grasp the full depth: that paddlers like him who have been doing this stuff for a few decades or more have been throwing huge parties for kayakers long before most of you started paddling, and before many of you were born. It may be fresh for you, but it's not fresh for him. James can attest to the feelings that naturally crop up after you've organized an event for a few years running.
You do all the hard work, organization and planning, and tons of kayakers show up and drink all your beer, eat all your food, and over-indulge in whatever other substances or vices may be readily available for consumption (generally speaking).
 
It's a beautiful thing. But, you know, sooner or later it gets old for the ones who make it happen. Sure a few people always crop up to help out, help clean up ect. But FEW is the opperative word. Since any large group tends to naturally default to a HERD mentallity, there is an ineveitable mess that is made in their wake. All the garbage left behind at Woodstock is the most classic example.
 
Probably don't even need to point all that out.
The challenge is to continue to find ways throughout each year to allow such gatherings to flourish. They are, afterall, like a sort of VITAL GLUE that helps our so-called community to stay bonded together and enrich itself.
 
This is just a great moment to perhaps remind ourselves of the tiny little ways we can participate and foster  greater conciousness within oursleves.
 
Now let's get drunk, jump the fire pit and brawl in the mud! WOOHOOO!!
 
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 3:14pm
It is sad the ways folks abused Mikes place last year...
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 4:12pm
Um... Why ya'll assuming Mike's place will not be used? Tony never said it wasn't, just that the details aren't finalized yet.

Anyway, I was not aware of problems last year as I left early as I started feeling sick after the races. That's really sad if people were being abusive to Mike's property. He's been hugely generous to the boating community for a long time. A hell of a great guy.
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 4:16pm
My conclusion is based on Tony's post, and things I heard from Mike and his wife last year. Based on things that happened in the past, Mike not hosting the event would be unfortunate, but not unexpected. I don't know anything beyond what Tony's post says.
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 4:22pm
That would be unfortunate, but I certainly wouldn't blame him.
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 4:27pm
No - I hope my posts didn't sound that way. Mike has done a tremendous amount for the community.
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  Quote dragorossinw Replybullet Posted: 09 Feb 2010 at 2:57am
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Um... Why ya'll assuming Mike's place will not be used? Tony never said it wasn't, just that the details aren't finalized yet.
Yup, still in planning stages, have another meeting next week.  The ONLY thing for sure is the Forest Service Permit for the EFL on the listed dates.  The commity hasn't even decided what food or brew or how many porta johns are going to be offered at the party.... so don't assume ANYTHING. 
 
But be assured, I will keep you all psoted as things are set in stone.  I know how folks get when things are posted about possabilities, rumors fly.
 
The website will also be updated, but not as quickly as I hope to have info for ya all. 
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 2:14pm
The website looks like it is updated. Doesn't look like there are any details for camping though.

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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 7:34pm
Anyone want to carpool?
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