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  Quote Travisimo Replybullet Topic: Best class III scenery??
    Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 1:19pm
There is a paddler heading here from the UK with my company Feb 20-21

I'd like to either hook him up with a group or take him down something cool...  Any beautiful peninsula runs?  I'm almost embarrassed that I don't know the answer to this myself. 

I've always wanted an excuse to see more scenery, maybe this is a good one!
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 1:40pm

Tilton

E. frk Humptulips.
 
Those are the first two that immediately spring to mind. And they seem to run fairly often.
 
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  Quote dragorossinw Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 2:22pm
Sandy R gorge
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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 3:12pm
Amazing scenery on the sandy gorge for sure. I think it might push the limits of class III though at least at anything above low flows
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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 3:26pm
The nooksack canyon stretch is short but beautiful.  Also the Sauk is pretty and remote feeling. 
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  Quote Wiggins Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 3:53pm
If you don't mind crossing the border I would also suggest the Chehalis in BC at low-med flows. If you call Western Canoe and Kayak they can usualy give you an idea of what the river is doing. The Chilliwack around 1.0 might be good as well.
 
Middle Pilchuck Creek is very scenic (despite all the auto parts) and is a lot easier to catch if you don't care if the waterfall is in. Look for flows between 500-1000 on the DOE gauge.
 
Don't forget the Sky! We tend to overlook the scenic nature of that run. If walking Boulder Drop is out you can always put in below it and run to Big Eddy.
 
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 5:58pm
The Green River Gorge, upper and lower has some very amazing rock formations and cliff wall scenery. One of the most spectacular runs close in to Seattle.
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  Quote Kiwi Replybullet Posted: 20 Jan 2010 at 9:07pm
east fk humptulips, you can also have him run perfection falls on donkey creek, you drive by it on the way to the put in.
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  Quote tiziak Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 8:44am
Hey Slickhorn, Kris and I were up looking for the Vance putin. We were skunked due to a late start but we never really found the correct putin. Any advice?
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 9:01am
Depends on what kind of scenery:

For mountain views, you want clear weather or at least a high ceiling. The Sauk has great views on both the middle and upper runs. One of the best close in runs for views is the upper MF Snoqualmie.... it's more of a class 2 run, but if you have a long day you can get your ww fix by continuing down the middle.


For gorge/canyon scenery, which is usually still good on a rainy day, the Green River Gorge and Tilton were already mentioned and are both good, but may be pushing it if you really want a class 3 run. The Sandy gorge has been mentioned too, but in my opinion the scenery isn't better than what we have on the green or Tilton... Personally, I don't like that run all that much. I think many of rapids on it are more hazardous than they are fun. There's some nasty seives in there. Also, Kyles suggestion of middle Pilchuck is a good one too.

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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 9:42am
It sounds like the MF road is open now at least to Taylor River.

http://www.wfl.fhwa.dot.gov/projects/erfo_mfsnoqualmie/


NF Snoqualmie is a nice run too with some nice scenery. You need to like walking too though.
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  Quote Kiwi Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 9:53am
good, that road closure was a major bonerkill when I got there at 6 in the morning to try and do infinite bliss on mt. garfield. is their any good whitewater on the mf snoqualmie below taylor river?
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 1:00pm
Really? Dingford has III? Didn't know that. Cool.
 
Yeah, You're right. Tilton and Upper green Gorge both have some class IV moments along the way. And both impart a remmote enough feeling to make one want to bump the rating more towards class IV. Then the Lower Green Gorge (really quite beautiful) is barely class III according to most people. I guess I'd rate it  II+ / III.
 
I was gonna mention the Sky but sometimes when I think in terms of scenic criteria I tend to exclude stretches with roads alongside them. still, on the Sky you get some wider vistas of mt. Index, ect. And if you really want strictly class III, you may want to ask yourself if having road access along the river is a good thing for your friend, too. I don't know. Depends on his skill level (navigating, rolling, ect.) and your skill level (leading, rescuing, ect.) Condideration of both of your skill levels should be factored in for sure if you're both going somewhere you've personally never been. But that's your biz to sort out.
 
I've run the NF Snoq, and like Joe said, you gotta do some hiking for it. Yet it doesn't have as much character as the Green or the Sky. You gotta ask if it's worth the trouble, in this case. I mean, he's coming to visit and has limited time, so you want to give him the most bang for his buck, huh?
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  Quote JayB Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by slickhorn

sorry, the section of the MF Snoqualmie beginning at the Dingford confluence has some III.  Not Dingford proper.  The section above dingford looks fun IV creeky, but make sure you locate Lost Key before running it, scariest drop I've ever seen that I would totally committ to from above.  Major injury potential. 




What's the story with Lost Key? Is that the sieve-pinch ledge looking thingy in the AW photos?

Cool to hear about your Dad's renewed stokage.
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  Quote dragorossinw Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2010 at 5:32pm
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Amazing scenery on the sandy gorge for sure. I think it might push the limits of class III though at least at anything above low flows
They said Class III Scenery, they didn't mention no Class IV (+) Rapids!
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 22 Jan 2010 at 10:25am
Lost Key is at the bottom of the burnboot stretch and hardly what I would call quality. It has a very narrow window when it runs and it is very short with a hike in and hike out depending on if you run all the class II back to the road. There were access points but most of the little roads have been blocked off now.


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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 22 Jan 2010 at 1:47pm
One of these days I'd like to catch that stretch at a decent flow and run it.  Not that's i'd feel any obligation to Lose my Key.
This off topic, but I'd rather paddle class II than hike a boat any day.
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  Quote JayB Replybullet Posted: 22 Jan 2010 at 3:28pm
Thanks James.

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  Quote SOPBOATER Replybullet Posted: 24 Jan 2010 at 10:16pm
Narrow as well as the Gorge run on the E. FK. Humptulips are very scenic as well as have decent class II-III whitewater.  Also they run fairly often as the narrow canyons allow you to run them very low yet don't get nasty at high flows either.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 9:32am
Yeah- My predominant bet for class III scenic stretches is on the O.P. Great to see you out on the W. Frk Satsop, Kris. We'll hook up down there one of these days...
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