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  Quote James Replybullet Topic: Re-Cap Old Stuff
    Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:10am
I have a few things to throw out there that have been constant items of interest from a few folks. Read below and post your thoughts so it can be changed with community concensus.


1. Edit Post
This feature was removed after alot of people complained about someone posting BS then starting a thread war, and going and pulling the original post down. More or Less making the thread no longer understandable. People complained so it was removed, Now folks are complaining because they want to edit their posts (not just you paul ). We can't have both, so which one?

2. Battle of the Alias
As we all know more and more fakers have plagued the board. I personally am not a fan of the covers, but it is a mode to free and un-harnessed speech. My personal opinion is that on and off the river we should all be accountable for our actions and choices. Fake Names provide an outlet to avoid accountability. Last time we discussed removing the Hugonator, everyone was against it. Now with more fake posters than ever will we have a different opinion?

3. Boulder Drop Dash
Quite a few people have discussed an informal boulder drop dash for fun. It would not be a race, it would be a brawl @ boulder. Rafts and inflatables would be preferred and pool toys and seyvlor rafts would be ideal... Most creative river craft prize and Most Carnage Filled Run Prize. Two goals both sure to bring fun in the sun. It's not going to take a ton of planning, I just want to gauge interest and if there is some, I will throw it together.

So there you have it 3 items to discuss. Lets hear it !!
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  Quote hugo Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:21am
save hugo motherfuckers!
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  Quote Tobin Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:37am
#1 - I like to be able to edit my posts, not for the stated reasons, but because my typing sucks.

#2 - Hugo??? Oh hell, he is a mouse that tries to speak with a bullhorn, he is only a problem if you acknowledge his existence.

#3 - Bring it. I got an inflatable crocodile I need to find a use for, and if I am still banged up, I'll take pictures.


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  Quote Larry Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:50am
What Tobin said. But on the first point, maybe make it so you can edit without completely removing the post. That way you can see that a post was there, or edited, so you at least have an idea why the thread doesn't make sense.
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  Quote Larry Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:53am
OH Yeah, and give Leif his fake name only put "leif" somewhere in the nickname. It's not like we wouldn't know who it was anyway.
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  Quote Fish Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 9:01am
1.  I like the edit feature, and think it it more useful,  than harmful.

2. Keep the Alias going.  Hugo is entertaining!

3. LOVE THE IDEA of the boulder drop dash!!!    Sounds like a great way to build crazy floating devices and wreck them in boulder drop.
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  Quote Meghan Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 9:14am
I'd be in for the Brawl at Boulder, esp. if the water level is up.
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 9:46am
Great Feedback, Keep it coming - So Far the Survey Says

1. Edit : Turn the feature back on
2. Alias : Continue the game of Hide and Seek
3. Brawl @ Boulder  ( 4k - 8k )

I would love more feedback before I turn back on the edit feature. Just FYI, You never could remove a post, and edited on xx/xx/xxxx is always added, but if you allow editing nothing stops someone from just removing all the words they posted leaving a blank post.
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  Quote skim Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 10:18am
Regarding #1: Why not have the edit feature turned on for a given time interval say 10 min and lock it down once a thread gets going to preserve the original context?
#2:  Having alias is cool but perhaps throw a disclaimer to unveil the mask if things get too ugly and goes overboard.  should a line be drawn when enough is enough?
#3: Doesn't apply to me since I'm still a BD noob at those levels.
boof it for crying out loud
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  Quote BRoss Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 11:16am
i like what skim said, if that is possible, regarding a time-limited editing period. I've often posted things with typos or that make no grammatical sense, and wanted to fix it after pushing POST. But locking it after that would keep the thread from being confused.
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  Quote ThrowYaMittsUp Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 11:30am
1. It's nice to be able to fix typos

2. I'm thinking I need an alias with my real name, so people know who I am.

3. Hell Yeah!!!!
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 11:36am
Skim - Unfortunately no extra special programming has been approved by the Board. (I am of course just blaming the Board since there really is no Board. I just don't have the time)

Also just because your new to the drop at those levels does not mean you should not be into the brawl... Getting served is what this event will be all about, safe and sound, but still soggy swimmin!!!!


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  Quote huckin harms Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 12:19pm

Yeah, the edit feature is pretty cool!

Let the trolls hide!
 
AND BRING ON THE BD GAMES!
 
 
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 12:32pm
Since no one has asked for the Edit feature to remain off,

On it goes, enjoy your editing!
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  Quote rockarolla Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 12:48pm
1. yaaaaa!

2. yaaaa!

3. way yaaaaaa!
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 3:59pm


I don't care about the other stuff, but the Boulder dash sounds like fun!

WE should set up multiple rescue kayaks on both sides of the river in multiple eddies though, some of us don't swim all that great you know... like meeeeee....
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  Quote Tobin Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 4:05pm
Dave,
I would think you would be a good swimmer by now.
Your getting lots of practice.

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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 4:39pm
I don't like swimming because water goes down my throat and I cant breath!
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 5:43pm
I want my fake name activated!
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  Quote dave Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 6:58pm
I like my fake name, dave. That is my cover for Dave with a capital D... I guess I could have done better...
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  Quote rainpaddle Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 7:04pm
Tobin,
 
word has it, you have a use for that crocodile. Spare your dogs, please!
 
Cheers,
 
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 13 May 2009 at 8:00pm
Leif ... your stinkin fake name is active. Have fun there chili chief 
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  Quote Liz Replybullet Posted: 14 May 2009 at 9:00am
1. Edit - yes please, for reasons stated above
 
2. Alias - I don't think an alias or not is going to stop the bs that goes down on this site from time to time.  I just quit reading and get disappointed in humanity.  Sometimes I laugh.  Sometimes I want to break out in song with "What the world needs now, is love sweet love.  It's the only thing, that there's just... too little of."
 
3. This sounds like fun.  The summer is filling up fast so I don't know that I can commit to being there.  But, we had an event like this on the SF American in California at TroubleMaker Rapid called the "Toe-Up Cup"and it was a blast!  Party for raft guides on a Monday.  There were official kayak races and play competitions, but the real fun was the Cup at the end that was just the kind of thing James is proposing above.  My all time favorite was the "Ultimate Picnic" craft -- two big coolers ducktaped together, complete with a big picnic umbrella and plastic fruit attached to the top.  There it goes into the hole!  Sumo wrestling suits, float toys, small overloaded rafts...  Wow, wear your helmet.


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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 12:36pm
Just to Re-Cap since the Robe Thread was just obliterated and responses are being PM'd to me as fast as un-employment applications...

1. We have 8 for Yes to the Edit and one for I don't care but none against it.

2. Alias gets 7 Ya, and 1 Nay. Not to many people mind the fakers.

3. Boulder Brawl is for sure ... I am in the process of planning it now. I will have a dates poll up pretty soon!
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  Quote slickhorn Replybullet Posted: 19 May 2009 at 1:25pm
I'll step up and oppose the edit feature.

So, I'm trying to read my way through the Robe Race thread, and half the damn posts are purged. 

I like that I can edit a typo or something, but I don't like that someone can spout off in an ill-advised emotional rant, then delete any evidence.  Trying to reconstruct the conversation never works, cause half of it is missing.  It also prevents people from maybe thinking "do I really want to post this" because they can always delete it all. 

Given how much people are griping about the tone of posts, I wonder if disabling the edit function for a while might be a way to get people to stand up for what they post.  If we don't allow aliases, why do we allow people to delete their whole post, multiple times, when their comments are what is fueling everyone else's comments? 

Is summary, nix the edit feature, and nix aliases.

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