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Kiwi
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Topic: FITW Sunday Posted: 02 May 2009 at 2:38pm |
anyone going up there tomorrow?
never done the run before, it'd be nice to know if there was another group to meet up with, to speed up our first run. the forecasted flow is 850, is that too high?
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tradguy2
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Posted: 02 May 2009 at 4:54pm |
That is pretty high for a first time down. There might still be too much snow,
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Kiwi
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Posted: 02 May 2009 at 5:50pm |
scratch that, I'm doing the Ohane instead.
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Posted: 03 May 2009 at 9:25am |
If FITW was navigable as far as ice on the sides ect... you would most certainly have to hike in the snow. As of earlier this week the road was still buried in snow.
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dave
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Posted: 03 May 2009 at 7:43pm |
FITW, 850? Yikes, scary...soon mighty one soon...
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Meghan
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 7:20am |
I ran it last week. Same run with typical yearly wood with one exception. A drop has changed. I won't say which but I will say it is probably prudent not to start your first run of the year in a bombs away mode.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:01am |
Why would you not say which one has changed? It's typically polite to share new beta on popular runs.
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Fish
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:32am |
Yes, please share about the changes...
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Kiwi
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 8:59am |
I read something in the comments on the AW page, one of the first ledges fell apart, so now it's a manky slot that you probley want to portage. maybe that's it?
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Fish
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:18am |
Just saw that warning as well. I sure hope that we can find access that isnt too far down the run. I'm gonna head up this week and take a look, and a lap!
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Confucius
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:36am |
Confucius was just up there meditating yesterday and it still looked unaccessable. Are you sure you are talking about FITW?
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Through words and deeds the superior man moves heaven and earth. Must one not, then, be cautious? "Confucius,500 BC"
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Meghan
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:42am |
Snowshoes do fit nicely in creekboats.
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STLboater
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:45am |
Is this a river change that could be potentially dangerous? I think this is what everyone is worried about, a new pin spot, sieve, piton rock, something along those lines...
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:49am |
Meghan- It is obvious how high and mighty you are but could you please share the new beta with your community?
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James
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:50am |
Good to know that its gettin done... sled laps on FITW are always a good work out. Snow shoes... now that's a good idea!!! When we did it we were post holin waist deep with bare feet and speedos on... if it weren't for my poogies it might have been a cold day.
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JeffR
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:51am |
It changed during the big flood back in January. Here's a pic of it at
low water from January (this used to be a 5 or 6 foot boof):
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:53am |
Thanks JeffR, I appreciate it the pic and the info!
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Fish
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 9:55am |
thanks for posting the pic Jeff. I'm curious to see if a boatable line will emerge with more flow. Guess we'll find out soon enough! Who's got snowmobiles?
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 10:59am |
Originally posted by kayaktheworld
Meghan- It is obvious how high and mighty you are but could you please share the new beta with your community?
Easy there paddle pup, reach back and get that spray skirt unbunched, it will be okay.
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hugo
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:13am |
Originally posted by STLboater
Is this a river change that could be potentially dangerous? I think this is what everyone is worried about, a new pin spot, sieve, piton rock, something along those lines...
all valid points my young jedi. i know how unaccessible FITW is, perhpas stooksberry and coombs will venture in there and scout it out for us and give us some beta.
this reminds me of the "broken society" post up here a few weeks ago, funny how many of you all got all fired up about people not taking personal responsibility for thier actions, yet when it comes to figuring out shit on your own on the river, you get all butt hurt when somebody does not spoon feed you the beta. Any boater worth their stink knows that it is not prudent creeking protocol to bomb down creeks blindly at the start of season. shit changes, rocks fall, avalanches bring logs down, floods happen. How is that any different on FITW? get out of your boat and look at the drops for yer self and make your own call if you think that it is a pin spot, sieve or etc. don't rely on somebody to make the call for you. it was nice of jeff to put the picture up and give the beta, but fuck, so what if meghan does not tell us. take a peak for yourself. are you not boaters yourself?
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:26am |
I always scout FITW my first run of the season....every single rapid. It will be not different this year. But being coy and secretive about beta that is important and pertinent is just irresponsible. I don't always agree with Leif but he was 100% right when he said this community sucks.
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:28am |
Especially you, Hugo.
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cloudpeak
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:31am |
So, Meghan posts that she has information that would be useful to the community, but flat out states that she won't share it. Hugo piles on to say that on the river it's every person for him or herself.
Classic PP, the non-community.
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Meghan
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:43am |
No one held my hand when I went in alone.
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chipmaney
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Posted: 04 May 2009 at 11:58am |
i am going to try to bring this chat back to reality. Yes, Meghan wasn't very nice. Yes, Hugo makes a valid point but misses the main point regarding community. HOWEVER, James, Kiwi, Fish, Confucius, and JeffR all turned the discussion into something positive by contributing valuable information to the community.
So sure, some people are just antisocial and don't want to be team players. However, that does not diminish the fact that many other people who are part of the PP community can interact with other humans in a healthy, conscientious way. I know, because I have met a lot of them.
Sorry to have be clinical like this and state the obvious, but sometimes that's the only thing that can bring back equilibrium.
So let's go boatin!
Who wants to take me down my first run of FITW this spring?
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