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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Topic: Nahatlatch or Squamish this Weekend?
    Posted: 13 Aug 2007 at 8:34pm
Curious if anyone wants to do the Nahatlatch this weekend?  Squamish is certainly a possibility, but weather on the Nahatlatch is 15-20 degrees warmer...  Anyone planing on heading up to either local?
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  Quote Sisu Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 12:39pm

I'm definitely interested in the Nahatlach this weekend.  James' recent post indicates the water might be a bit low around Squamish...

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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 12:54pm
I am re-routing to the Nahatlatch myself. What a coo-inky-dink.

I will change up the details on the BC Breakdown page. Looks like a Nat/Stien weekend.
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  Quote arnobarno Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 3:02pm
I too could be interested in the Nahatlatch this weekend though almost certainly only interested in the Francis Lake to Apocynum section (above the canyon).  Don't know if I have the skills (or perhaps risk acceptance profile) to do the canyon yet.

A couple of questions:
- can anyone compare the Nahatlatch to something here?
- if the make-up of the group is such that people want to spend the majority of the time in the canyon or other more difficult runs, I'll gracefully bow-out.  So the question is more of where folks are expecting to spend time?

Anyone that has seen me paddle lately and has also paddled the Nahatlatch, I'd appreciate feedback on appropriateness for me (either on the forum or PM).

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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 4:05pm
Arno,

I won't get to indepth on this one, but you will be fine on the Play Run. It would be comparable to the middle middle at around 1500 cfs to 2500 cfs but with smaller boulders.

I personally think you would be fine in the Canyon too. There is really only one class IV drop that is in there and the rest is really more on the lower side of IV. There are not really any huge holes in the canyon and the danger factor is not like sieves on the green or anything but a swim in a few different places would be a bummer.

Check it out Arno, the play run is awesome too and I would keep suggesting that you consider portions of the canyon before you decide against it. There is nothing even close to Boulder Drop in the canyon btw.

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  Quote slickhorn Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 4:36pm
good comaprison.  there's nothing as significant as house rocks on the play run, it's very straightforward.  You can road scout the first two (and toughest) drops, Rose Garden and meatgrinder and put in below them if they aren't to your liking.

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  Quote arnobarno Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 4:48pm
Okay.  That is very helpful.  Certainly, the Play Run sounds good for sure and the ability to road scout the first two drops certainly takes away most of my anxiety about that run.

On the canyon, when you say to consider "portions" of the canyon, are you saying that it is possible to exit the canyon or walk around some of the drops?  Can you scout the significant drops?

Final question - anyone know the level?
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  Quote slickhorn Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 4:50pm
the crus drop of the canyon, the nozzle, can be portaged on the left.  There's a pretty nice trail downriver from REO, I believe you can drive down and walk it to get an idea of the character of the canyon. 

I've only run it once really low, but it wasn't a big deal.  pretty straightforward, clean, and pool drop.  III-IV with one IV+ would be a "WA" rating I'd say. 
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  Quote Heather Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 7:06pm
Justin and I might be up for this trip, though just Fri evening through Sun evening (and I have to ask him!).  If so, we would definitely be up for the play run at least once.  But I also might like to try the canyon.  People who know, is it much harder than the Upper Cheakamus?
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  Quote jondufay Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 7:11pm
upper cheak is WAY harder...you would be totally fine heather.
ahh, f--- it dude, lets go boating...
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  Quote Heather Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 7:14pm
Ok, thanks for the input!  I will definitely consider this trip, then.
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 14 Aug 2007 at 7:17pm
There is nothing even remotely as difficult as triple drop in the canyon section and the most difficult rapid on the run is closer to the difficulty of that last ledge section on the cheakamus with the wood on the left side. That is like the style and feel of the river, Bigger feeling because of the canyon but more tongue and wave train style than the ledge and hole style of the cheak.
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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 12:04am
I personally would love to go on this trip.  I'd even like to try the Canyon also.  Maybe walk the nozzle.  
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 8:01am
Dude justin you will love the canyon it is really awesome down there. And the best part is that unlike whistler you can pretty much bank on very warm weather, so its all about the shorties.

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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 8:30am
Heather and I went up to the Nahatlach a few weeks ago, and the water was high then, It will be nice to see it at a different level.
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  Quote franzhorner Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 12:14pm
Whats the level on the Nahatlach looking like for the weekend?  I'm planning on going and taking my catboat.  Does anyone need a ride and want to carpool with a couple of  catarafters?  We are pretty rowdy but safe....
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 12:36pm
I will be there ready to rock n roll Franz

Ya missed the meteor showers though! The last few weeks up there were awesome.
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  Quote franzhorner Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 12:49pm
Damn, I hope there are so more up there this weekend.  My buddy I was supposed to be riding with might back out now but hopefully I'll find a way up there!!
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  Quote arnobarno Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 1:28pm
Doh - I am probably out for the weekend.  Too much to do before we head down to Oregon next Tuesday.  The Nat will need to wait till next year.  Looks like lots of fun though.

For those interested, the weather forecast is surprising for this weekend - both for Seattle and for Lytton.  Here is a link to the equivalent of the national weather forecast for Canada.  Looks like showers and temps around 70 (down from 95 today) for Lytton.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/bc-33_metric_e.html


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  Quote saw425 Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 5:49pm
Hey ya'll this is Susan from Nc. (Ive met a few of you already) It is my last weekend up here and I fly out Sun at 10:30pm. I have friday off and would love to get out boating again before I leave (the Nahatlatch sounds good, but I would like to get out on anything really) I am in seattle and can get a ride to meet up and carpool if any of ya'll will have me. Call me or post whatever is easier, my number is (804) 822-0570.
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 8:36am
Susan,

You should definitly check out the Nat! Several cars are leaving tomorrow afternoon. Here are the folks you should PM.

franzhorner : leaving from Seattle possibly with fish (thats a dude btw not a dinner)

justin and Heather: leaving from Bellingham with 1 dog

Pretty sure that leifkirchoff  is going and Jon Mastin might be going with him.

Others are planned but thats a start. Who ever you go with you should make sure your going to be back in the area by like 8 so you don't miss your flight!

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  Quote saw425 Replybullet Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 9:39am
Thanks James! maybe I will see you this weekend but if not Thanks for your website and to everyone who has given me a ride and paddled with me, your website has been most helpful. If any of ya'll come to the south east and need any beta or anything feel free to give me a call or drop me a line.
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  Quote RemAcct2 Replybullet Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 9:55am
I am heading up sometime on Friday (as early as possible).  Will there be folks boating on the Nahatlatch on Sat? (I hope)...James?
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  Quote James Replybullet Posted: 16 Aug 2007 at 10:52am
I will be up there baby Yea... Details will be posted in a few minutes to the BC Breakdown thread.

Thanks Susan glad you got out there a few times and I will certainly be calling if I am in the area.

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  Quote justin Replybullet Posted: 19 Aug 2007 at 9:50pm
Hey everybody, thanks for another great weekend up in B.C.  The canyon is seriously one of the coolest runs I've ever done.  And the Black Bear that we saw was the Icing on the cake.
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