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  Quote dylan Replybullet Topic: Granite Creek
    Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 8:25pm
The N. Cascade Highway opens on Thursday the 26th of April. This means that the Granite Creek season is on.
 
Anybody want to go out there on Saturday?  I'm thinking of running the class III - IV Granite Creek / Ruby Creek combo.
 
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 10:38pm
Sounds awsome! If levels are in I'm very interested.
 
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 25 Apr 2007 at 10:38pm
Doh!
 
I got screwed up on dates. I'm busy this weekend, but would definately be down for it a week from now.
 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 26 Apr 2007 at 9:00am
I can't this weekend, but I would love to check it out.  Maybe a day of paddling combined with a day of spring boarding at the pass?
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  Quote dylan Replybullet Posted: 26 Apr 2007 at 12:46pm
It's a great creek, and I'm trying to get on it as much as I can. I've been on it when the Methow is at 3,000 (low on the creek) and when the Methow is at 6,000 ( juicy on the crick).

Levels look good for this weekend, we'll have to see what happens after that. I'm stoked that people are interested.

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  Quote dylan Replybullet Posted: 27 Apr 2007 at 7:59pm
Someone wants to go tommorrow (besides me) I just know it.
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  Quote Chuck e fresh Replybullet Posted: 28 Apr 2007 at 8:59am

That sounds good, but not for another two weeks for me, Can't wait to go exploire and meet some new boater's!!!

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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 30 Apr 2007 at 10:30am
Dylan, I'm interesting in running this with you Saturday id it is running.  I'll be out of town the next few days, I'll check in with you later in the week. 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 4:18pm
Dylan,  Leif, Dan and I are interested in running this Saturday if the flows are good.  Plus, I'd like to hike up Thunder Creek and take a look at it.  Are you still interested? 
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  Quote dylan Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 4:27pm
I am always interested in that run, but I can't this Saturday.
 
It's likely a great level for it though, so I encourage getttin on it.
 
Sorry for flaking.
 
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 4:38pm
I'm definately up for a Granite Creek trip either day........let's do it!
 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 4:59pm

Thanks Dylan, any beta?

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  Quote dylan Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2007 at 6:22pm

Korb says in the Whitewater Guide that "one Class IV + rapid, along with the entire first mile of whitewater, should be thoroughly scouted from the road for logs before putting on."  I concur. Who knows whats in the creek after last November.

 
Let me know how it goes.
 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2007 at 11:24am
Looks like this is not going to happen.  Leif is of to Idaho or Hood River, Dan can't paddle in the morning and have evening plans.  Looks like sopmething in the Sky drainage is more likely or the Green if that falls through. 
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2007 at 4:12pm

Not so fast, looks like there are three of us interested right now. Let me know if you can make it.

 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2007 at 4:37pm
I'm still interested but I need an earlier start.  What time are you thinking?
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2007 at 9:00pm
We're meeting at 8:00 at the Park and Ride of I5 and 164th. This is a couple miles north of the intersection of I5 and 405. Give me a call if you're coming out. It would be good to have a 4th person.
 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2007 at 10:04pm
I'm in, but I'll drive up myself.  I have plans in Lake Stevens tomorrow evening so the park and ride is the wrong way.  It is around a 3 hr drive so I'll plan to meet you at the takeout at 11 am unless I hear otherwise.  Call me if anything changes 206-734-16 four 2
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 8:56am

For those of you who have not seen this creek, check it out.  The scenery is spectacular, the water is clear is and the river is awesome.  Because of low flows we put on the Upper section.  Unfortunately I only ran a mile+ of the run because of a late start time was running short and I had to get back to town.  (Hiking uphill to the putin with a kayak sucks).  Wood is definitely a concern so make your first trip at lower levels (Methow under 5000 at Peteros).  I'd consider bring a folding saw next time to clean things up a bit.   I can't wait to go back. 

I'll post some pics when I get a chance. 
Anything to add Otter Boy?


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  Quote mike Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 10:27am
I'd love to see those pics, a few of us were thinking about heading up to the Upper section on Thursday and were looking for as much info as possible.  How much snow was there at the put in?
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 12:18pm
There is about 1 foot of snow near the put in but It's melting fast.  There is a lot of wood.  At low flows you should have time to stop but at higher flows be very careful.  Like I said, I only ran 1.5 miles or so before my time ran out so I don't know what the rest of the run was like.  The flows were at the bottom of the suggested range (Methow 4000at Pateros) Saturday and the run felt easier than the guidebook suggested.  Make sure to ask Otter boy about the rest of the run.  I need to look, but if this run is not in a wilderness area I would bring a small folding saw. 
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  Quote Otter Boy Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 12:43pm
I don't have much to add. We hiked off only a mile or so below the point where Tradguy2 bailed. If you're good enough to tackle Upper Granite Creek there's not a lot you can learn from me. If I may quote Bennet, there is "enough wood to make Beavis blush". Log locations will change with springtime flows. Be careful out there, and scout everything you can't see from the top.
 
Having said that, I'm very interested in running the lower III/IV section at a healthy flow. This creek is a real gem, and we need to bet some beta recorded on the American Whitewater site.
 
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  Quote tradguy2 Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 1:01pm

I just looked at a map, the creek is not in a winderness area so...

 
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  Quote Sisu Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2007 at 1:39pm

After seeing all the wood in the upper section, a couple of us ran the easier Granite Creek/Ruby Creek section (as described in Bennet) on Sunday.  It was pretty low -- about 20% more water would make it really fun.  Mainly straightforward class III, with one river wide huge log jam, and two other spots with single logs all the way accross that we had to portage.  One was kind of sneaky -- be careful. 

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