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  Quote irenen Replybullet Topic: Please show up to support dam opposition next Tues
    Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 8:21pm
Hi all,

My friend Lora Cox who has been faithfully toiling away for the past few years to keep a dam off of the Skykomish River is asking for our support on Tues. Dec 15 as SnoPUD reaches a critical decision point.

Please see her email below:

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On Dec 15th starting around 9 AM at the main office in Everett, PUD staff will present a detailed update to the Commissioners on the status of what has been done so far, the current design, the results of the "studies", etc.   Pete and I will be there to rebuff anything critical that we believe is misleading, incorrect, or omitted.

Could you attend the morning of Dec 15th and simply stand when I make my remarks?   The Commissioners have been told that opposition to this plan is limited to just a few people.  If we could fill their meeting room with opponents---4 years after the project was announced---it would send a message that more than just a few people oppose this project.

If only a handful can come, then it would appear SnoPUD is correct and there really aren't many people opposed to the project.  It might not be worthwhile to have just a few people show up.


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I think it would be great if as many people in the kayaking/paddling community as possible could show a strong presence and make it clear that lots of people are in opposition to this project. If you're able to make the time for this please let me know, I will be driving up from Kirkland and would be happy to car pool. 

It's at 9 am on Tues. Dec. 15 at main headquarters, pretty sure that's 2320 California Street, Everett, WA 98201.

Cheers and SYOTR.
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  Quote Jed Hawkes Replybullet Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 9:09pm
what room number?
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 7:07am
I'm down. Lets do it.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 7:08am
Bump this sh*t, yo-
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 7:11am
Bump it. And keep bumpin it
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 7:30am
Ok new rule as far as this thread is concerned...
This thread is related to the proposal to DAM THE SKYKOMISH.

WE GOTTA SAY HELL NO.

so, if you respond to some other thread please keep this bumped to the top. Maybe respond to it and show up next tuesday- that's even better.
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  Quote irenen Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 8:17am
Thanks you guys, Jed I'm finding out the room number and will post it here.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 8:38am
Why wont the envelope icon turn red? I think im posting too much. More of you need to weigh in. Show support. Bump!!
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  Quote irenen Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 10:54am
It is on the main floor of the headquarters at 2320 California Street, Everett, WA 98201, there is a receptionist who will point you to the room where the SnoPUD meeting is taking place. 9 am on Dec. 15th.
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  Quote ConradLilleness Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 4:56pm
If I could be there, I would!
Good luck guys!

Is there anything I can do remotely? email someone, etc.?
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  Quote cbishop1 Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 5:51pm
Gotta work :-( A dam on the sky would be the worst! Let's ally with the fisherman!
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  Quote WhiteWaterWheat Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 7:20pm
Thanks yet again for rallying the kayaking community Irene! And giving us clear directions on how to help save the places we love.
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  Quote turtlepower Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 10:13pm
They must like to plan these things when turnout will be the highest, like mid morning on a weekday..Is there a petition we can sign for those of us that are unable to attend? Bump in the night
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  Quote mprussak Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 10:37pm
Oof, that's like an hour and half away, easy. Maybe if someone's willing to rally to boat after?

Seriously it's like they don't want anyone to be able to make it.
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  Quote megspk Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 11:03pm
I'm off that day....anybody want to meet up and carpool? I'm coming from Redmond!
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  Quote mprussak Replybullet Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 11:09pm
I'm free, but the only way I'm dragging myself out of bed that early is to paddle. :P

So if you're willing to go boating after and someone else can shuttle, carpooling would work for me.
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  Quote irenen Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 4:32am
I'm heading up from Kirkland Megan, would be happy to carpool if that works out. Thanks to all who are willing to participate, I totally understand that some people have jobs that do not allow for taking off on a weekday morning and I think it's lame that these type of meetings often take place during regular work hours, but unfortunately that is when some of the big decisions about the places we love are made. Anyone north of Kirkland reasonably on the way to Everett I'm happy to pick up.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 7:37am
I will be there. As of about ten minutes ago my schedule just freed up. I took the honest route and disclosed the real reason I was absent from work yesterday and today.

http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/river/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?GLBW1

I just got let go from my job.
So, yeah- no schedule conflict for me! I'll be there.

Is there anything in particular we should or should NOT do? I mean, we are just going to show our presence and be silent I assume right?

Agreed- we need to get the fishermen in the mix.
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  Quote irenen Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 7:53am
Hey JP, I think just showing up and standing to show support when Lora makes her remarks is the main thing needed.

Yes, I think it would be a good idea to see if any fishermen would want to show up, does anyone have an 'in' on that group?

Sorry to hear about the job by the way.  And I'll check to see if there's anything we specifically shouldn't do at the meeting. i.e. dressing up like a giant fish and flopping around in front of the podium in a salmon death reenactment, probably a no-no. ;)


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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 9:25am
Originally posted by irenen



i.e. dressing up like a giant fish and flopping around in front of the podium in a salmon death reenactment, probably a no-no. ;)



Hahaha, thats real similar to the example I was gonna provide (for what NOT to do) haha

As for myself, I promise to exhibit the utmost cordial behavior ;)

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  Quote Slackkinhard Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 9:46am
I just saw something on the news about a new lawsuit filed by the steelhead folks. Getting in with them could be our best move.
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  Quote Blair Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 10:50am
What's more important? Missing a day of work which is temporary or stopping a dam that's permanent? I say skip work and be there. I'll write you a doctors note. See you there. Where do we meet up and what time? I see it starts at 0900.
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  Quote megspk Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 11:08am
That would be awesome Irene! Just let me know the time and where to meet you!
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  Quote Blair Replybullet Posted: 09 Dec 2015 at 11:37am
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  Quote JayB Replybullet Posted: 10 Dec 2015 at 8:13am
I cross posted this at the Washington Fly Fishing site. Just for the sake of context, here's what one of the guys who is a career fish-bio guy had to say:

"In the interest of balance I think it's worth noting that this "dam" proposal is on the South Fork Skykomish River at Sunset Falls. As dams go, it won't be much of one. Rather, it would divert water upstream of the falls into and through a tunnel through bedrock to a powerhouse that would be located near the base of the WDFW fish ladder just downstream of the base of Sunset Falls. The project will only be developed if it includes the proposed NMFS criteria fish screen and return bypass on the water diversion, along with a few other critical details.

The area in and around the falls is not spawning or much in the way of rearing habitat. Even so, the PUD would be required to leave enough water in the river to maintain ecosystem function. Aesthetics are certainly debatable, since some would argue that aesthetics can be maintained only by having 100% of the stream flow passing over the falls 24/7/365. For comparison's sake, water is diverted from the Snoqualmie River to feed two hydroelectric powerhouses located downstream of the falls, and Snoqualmie is probably the most famous and visited waterfall in WA state.

No hydroelectric project is without environmental impacts, but this one is as close to benign as they come."

Just sharing here so people are well informed going into the meeting.
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