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  Quote WA-Boater Replybullet Topic: Top Tye Gauge Observations
    Posted: 02 May 2012 at 6:51pm

There is a gauge on the SF Skykomish I kept an eye on last year to better gauge the Tye.

http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/river/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?id=SSSW1

Trips from last year:
6.2' = 3-4" over tree
6.1' = 1" over tree
6' = tree level
5.9' = 1" below tree
5.8' = 2" below tree
5.4' = 6" below tree
 
I know Mike and Sam have been up there in the last couple weeks. It would be interesting to see how there runs correlate to last year. The graph goes back to April 22nd.
 
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  Quote water wacko Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 7:18pm
I was there last Sun afternoon and it was 3" above.
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  Quote Jed Hawkes Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 7:28pm
Hey Darren, you mind putting that data on the top tye page as well? That way this post doesn't get lost in the mess.
The line will become apparent
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  Quote WA-Boater Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 10:00pm

So Brett's run is 3" above at 6.2' on gauge.

6.2' = 3" above tree

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  Quote WA-Boater Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 10:01pm

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Don't know how to post it to the page. Maybe you can do it?
 
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 10:54pm
Info has been updated.

Brett, do you recall the level the day of the video that's posted? Would be nice to note the flow, even if approximate.


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  Quote water wacko Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:02pm
Maybe Darren remembers? I'm thinking it was 3-4" above the stick.   6.2' ?? I know it was at least even w/ the stick, but I'm pretty sure it was over. Ok, 6.1'
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  Quote water wacko Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:03pm
I updated the Top Tye page and some of the other runs in the SF Sky drainage.
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:11pm
Is the stick the same as the tree?  I'm unfamilar with it... If the stick gauge is used to check level at river maybe it should be described in the river description too. Whatever the foot level was, seems it was a "fluid" flow... colorado high or BC med-low, I'd guess. 

I've still never got onto that section yet. Gonna have to get on it this year. I've been on a good handful of the easier creeks up the Sky valley, but on the Tye I've only run the lower section.... and last tiime I looked the good drops there were totally wrecked by massive old growth logs.
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  Quote JoesKayak Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:14pm
And thanks Brett for the updates... will be nice to get some runs in up there on those SF Sky tribs this year and dial in more reasonable levels on the SF gauge. Figuring out how much of 10k at goldbar is actually in some little creek is a bit of a joke.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2012 at 11:55pm
No doubt. Yeah, good thread guys. I'm gonna take this opportunity to express that I think ALL VIDEOS AND PICTURES uploaded to this site should have the flow of the day the media was captured detailed and included with the media.

Kind of annoying when PPeeps neglect to include such data. CFS, height, whatever. Just include it in your videos and photos. That's beta.

But back to our little Charlie Brown River Tree: thanks for the Correlations, D!
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  Quote water wacko Replybullet Posted: 03 May 2012 at 12:25am
Joe, yes there's a little sapling at the takeout on the RR downstream side of the bridge. 6' on the SF gauge is even with the bottom of the sapling root/bottom-of-the-trunk; i.e. the water is just touching the bottom of it. 6.2' on the SF gauge = 3-4" of the sapling is in the water. It would be cool to remember our high water day a couple months ago. Christian? Tiziak? Anyone remember which day that was? It was pretty juicy. The sapling was at the 'nub' which is about 15" underwater. Everything was huge, none of us ran Box or Paranoia and Stairway to Heaven was 2-3 feet higher than I'd ever seen it before. Couple of huge holes at the bottom of that drop! Paranoia was more of a ramp than a vertical pourover. And that boil was waaay downstream!!!
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  Quote WA-Boater Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2012 at 7:03am
5/3 -
5.9' = at or just below the tree

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  Quote Fish Replybullet Posted: 04 May 2012 at 11:59pm
Got some laps in today.  Level was at the base of the sapling maybe a little over.  
 
On a side note, Hans and I rafted the second lap, putting in above Box Drop.  Was fun to finally get in there with a big boat, went well. 
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  Quote huckin harms Replybullet Posted: 11 May 2012 at 8:13am

TT dropped back into mediumish 'friendly' range again but that won't last long with the heatwave over the wkend.  Give me a shout if your headed up this evening, or tommorrow...

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  Quote jondufay Replybullet Posted: 11 May 2012 at 10:50am

I would like to head up tomorrow. 

ahh, f--- it dude, lets go boating...
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  Quote JD_G Replybullet Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:15am
Top Tye then Nason or Icicle?
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  Quote tiziak Replybullet Posted: 12 May 2012 at 8:29am
The big Tye day was December 28th. The Sky was at 22,000cfs and rising 400 cfs an hour.

TRIPLE CROWN!!

I've got some photos and video from that day I need to upload.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 7:53pm
Oh, so that's what you meant by Triple Crown!

So, since I have been running the Top Tye a bit lately I decided to resurrect this thread and pin it to the Top Tye page. It seems to be the best disscusion thread to cover gauge beta for this run.

I'm also going to follow up with a post containing some recent dates and flow data to go with those dates.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 8:40pm
My last four Top Tye trips have been a good opportunity to record a few guage values.



12/2/2013: Definitely my favorite lap of all time. Winter Green water and snow all over everything. Big rain on snow event (heavey rain on the pass). Beefy but not Rowdy.
SF Sky Guage = 7' dropping to 6.8'
Sapling = +3-4" above base of Sapling, Medium High-ish
Sky Guage = 14,000 dropping fast


In Febuary Stevens Pass recieved an average of ten feet of snow in as many days. Then about a week ago we had a whole bunch of heavy, sustained rain up at Stevens Pass, melting a lot of snow as it ran off directly into Tye Creek...


3/6/2014: I like these levels- plenty padded out but not too powerful. Good clean boating...
SF Sky Guage = 7'+
Sapling = +3" above base of Sapling, Medium High-ish
Sky Guage = 20,000 dropping

3/7/2014: Almost identical to the previous day, except it was sunny!
SF Sky Guage = 7.4'
Sapling = +3-4" above base of Sapling, Medium High-ish
Sky Guage = 18,000+/-,

3/12/2014: By now the spike was declining, but levels continued to drop slowly due to warm temps on the pass, melting residual snow on the heels of the rain. Sunny and warm!
SF Sky Guage = 6' dropping to 5.8'
Sapling = more or less right at base of Sapling. Seems like a good level to call medium. Not a bad flow, but I like a little more.
Sky Guage = 8,500 dropping slowly

Anyway, those are the values of the guages for those dates, and my impressions of "Medium" and "Medium-High". I know there is always some subjectivity with this, but seems about right.
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 17 Mar 2014 at 8:49pm
Originally posted by WA-Boater


http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/river/station/flowplot/flowplot.cgi?id=SSSW1



Trips from (2011):
6.2' = 3-4" over tree
6.1' = 1" over tree
6' = tree level
5.9' = 1" below tree
5.8' = 2" below tree
5.4' = 6" below tree



My values correlate roughly, but not exactly, to WA-Boater's. For those four dates I recorded, they were all specific to those storm cycles of the winter/spring season.



Edited by jP - 17 Mar 2014 at 8:55pm
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  Quote jP Replybullet Posted: 09 Apr 2014 at 1:57pm
Nice sunny, warm day here at the take out today.
The 1:30 reading of the SF Sky guage was

6.4 ft at 1:31 PM on 4/9
falling 0.02 ft/hr

And at 1:50 PM the sapling is displaying +3", surging to 4".
Healthy flow in there for sure, so Sam you were spot on with that call.

Makes sense. 60+ degrees on the pass followed by some rain and some residual melt...
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